Description of problem: I have tested Mageia10 alpha1 plasma (usbstick with persistent partition) Everything went well : everything is recognized and usable I have 2 screens one monitor one HDMI TV By default the display is spreaded over the two (with a correct resolution for both of them) 1) I want to use my TV as a clone of the monitor I launch the plasma System settings and modify the display configuration this way, I apply this => OK BUT I can't quit plasma System settings : no x cross in the window frame of the default theme used no quit menu any where in the plasma System settings window I change the default setting to use other theme (oxygen) and window decoration (oxygen) and apply ... that induces no change immediately But after having stopped Mageia10 and rebooted it with this USB stick, the changes are applied (the title bar has its x cross button and menu button To conclude : there's no way to quit plasma System settings with the default theme and window decoration and title bar there's no no x cross button in the right part of the title bar and no menu button on the left part of the title bar with a quit option see #34997
Blocks: (none) => 34997Target Milestone: --- => Mageia 10
I thought I had assigned this... Doing so now.
Assignee: bugsquad => kdeSee Also: (none) => https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34997
Blocks: 34997 => (none)
See Also: (none) => https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35009
Version: 10 => CauldronKeywords: (none) => 10alpha1
Summary: with Live Plasma Alpha1no way to quit Plasma System Settings with default config => with Live Plasma Alpha1 (nvidia proprietary drivers) no way to quit Plasma System Settings with default config
This seems not to be a KDE problem but strictly a Live iso problem : the freshly built nvidia drivers seem to be badly used during the first boot... After having quit and rebooted (the persistent partition is filled with the built drivers) there's no more display problems : windows frame OK (with a possibility to quit them) able to use the Mageia Menu to quit and power off
See Also: (none) => https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35020
Hi I have created a new USB pendrive with Live Alpha1 Plasma (and persistent partition) inside Grub I choose to boot with nvidia proprietary drivers Now I am sure that the problem of the windows of plasma for "MCC" or "Plasma System Settings" are caused by the default configuration of Plasma After the first boot these windows have no title bar and no way to quit (no x cross button, no file menu in the title bar with a quit button) Nevertheless after having modified the plasma theme and windows decoration and having quit... When I reboot the windows allow to quit To conclude : This seems to be a plasma default config problem inside the Live iso
Could you help caracterize the bug by saying whether you're running X11 or Wayland ? Then it may be because the tool in charge of windows decoration is not launch/died/... If X11 could you check whether kwin_x11 is running ? Sorry I know there is a need for a compositor for Wayland, but have no experience with that. Maybe attaching the result of dmesg, journactl and /var/log/Xorg.?.log would help understand what happens.
CC: (none) => bruno
Hi Bruno It's not so easy to get info from the first boot of Live Plasma Iso Nevertheless, after the second boot (which uses the persistent partition) I can explore the content of /var/log/ in this persistent partition after having mounted the USB pendrive inside Mageia9 I will attach the log files (maybe it's not what is needed)
Created attachment 15383 [details] xorg.log of the Live Plasma iso Alpha1 last xorg.log
Created attachment 15384 [details] xorg.log.old from Live Plasma Iso Alpha1 Xorg log from the previous boot
So for me remains to see whether kwin_x11 was launched or not, died or not, ... that could explain you do not have decoration on Plasma windows. Are you able to perform: ps auxww | grep kwin while running ?
Hi Bruno Unfortunately at the first boot I can't have access to the Mageia Menu (I can see only the right half part of it : the other is out of the display and not accessible) I can't have access to the console or the command line... I could only launch MCC or Plasma System Settings with their icons in the task bar Performing ps auxww | grep kwin is only possible after the second boot, and it will be useless because, then, Mageia10 works correctly... This appears to be difficult to debug
See Also: (none) => https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35010
What if you try to go to a console with CTRL+ALT+F3 and then log there if you have a getty waiting for your login ? Then you may be able to get more info from the running system.
Hi I can't understand why the Live Plasma Alpha1 had a different behaviour : I have used Isodumper to create a new USB pendrive (erasing the previously created iso ) I have booted again with this USB pendrive All went well this time !!! No problem with window decoration (I can close them)! Mageia welcome is in a window in the middle of the screen and can be closed when Live mode has been launched. The menu is correctly apparent... The only difference is that now my hdmi TV is a clone of the primary monitor when Plasma appears with a correct background and a working taskbar... Nota Bene : During the previous tests the screen was always spread over the two monitors and that apparently caused the several problems I encountered. All the previous problems seem to have been caused by the use by Plasma of a screen spread over the two monitors instead of having the HDMI TV as a clone of the primary monitor... This choice seems to be randomly done by the Live iso (I remember having encountered such randomly done choice with previous Live iso for Mageia9 or Mageia8 but that didn't cause problem for the display of MageiaWelcome nor for the windows frames that I could always close) Nevertheless I have had a bad surprise using Ctrl + alt + F3 : there was a black screen with the message "NO SIGNAL" and the monitor went into sleep mode ! No more access to Plasma : after having waited for 3 minutes I needed to use Ctrl + alt + del to stop the computer When I rebooted with the USB pendrive, Plasma started soon quite correctly but I discovered that the refresh frequency of the TV was wrong : 60,5 Hz instead of 60 Hz The appearance of the clone was cropped on its edges .... I could easily correct this with the Plasma System Settings... Now everything is right (thanks to the persistent partition) The worst bug is a bug that appears randomly...
To conclude There may be a bad detection of the technical characteristics of the HDMI TV that causes problem when the screen is spread over the two monitors... But that is quite painless when the Live iso chooses to use the HDMI TV as a clone (the cropped appearance of the TV doesn't prevent the use of the primary monitor) Strange indeed
Last test with a fresh built USB stick I have unplugged the HDMI TV before booting from the USB pendrive Choose to use nvidia proprietary drivers Everything goes as expected until : The Mageia Welcome fills totally the screen (no window frame) ... and is unresponsive when I click on Live Mode After having waited some minutes I use Ctrl + alt + F3 : that stops to display anything on the monitor => black screen "NO SIGNAL" The led of the USB pendrive doesn't stop twinkling I wait some minutes and have to stop all this with Ctrl + alt + del Having one or two monitors is not the cause of these bugs But The real surprise is that the Live iso worked correctly once during 10 tests and failed 9 times... Maybe something vary sometimes in the order of the successive steps that launch Plasma
You have multiple tty associated with the key CTRL+ALT+Ftty (from 3 to 6 by default IIRC on Mageia) In general CTRL+ALT+F2 goes back to the X11 root window, where you should find again the welcome screen (vt2 or tty2 when you look at how the X org server was launched with a ps). tty1 is generally for the boot screen, where you can find some messages. I tend to configure my systems to send syslog messages to tty11 or 12. that can be seen with CTRL+ALT+F11/12 The ALT key is only mandatory when you're in a graphical session. From one text based tty to another you can just use CTRL+Fxx
I will wait for the Beta Live iso to test it... hoping it is more stable at the first boot (it is supposed to be used as a demo, to verify if Mageia10 may be used on a computer, without having to use a persistent partition... burnt on a DVD for instance) Nota bene the second boot offers a real good version of Mageia10 when the persistent partition has been filled : even if it boots from an USB pendrive this boot is quite quick and after having updating everything this already gives an idea of what final release will be...
See Also: (none) => https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35107
Last news : All these problems was induced by the presence of a persistent partition !!! The test is OK with an USB pendrive having no persistent partition That was discovered when testing several Beta Live Plama ISO... and confirmed here