Created attachment 14071 [details]
Mageia normal sddm.jpg

This is a screenshot with a Mageia sddm without modify where appears "Welcome to localhost"

Created attachment 14072 [details]
Mageia with hostname file changed

This is a screenshot with a Mageia sddm with /etc/hostname file modification, where appears "Welcome to Mageia"

Created attachment 14073 [details]
Mageia with line sddm modified

Another option is to modify the mainql in the sddm theme and change to a fixed line of text indicating a message that does not require translations, like in this screenshot.

I don't know on clean install but it works for me, I still have the old coffe and the coffe-ng and both give me "Bienvenido <machine name>"

I suspect of missing requires/recommends on coffe-ng
As root run sddm-greeter --test-mode --theme /usr/share/sddm/themes/mga-coffee-2.0/

Old coffe sddm theme
https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEPL1IW

New coffe-ng sddm theme
https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEPL1J1

Forget to say that best way to set machine name is in the network wizard on MCC, not remember if this change needs to reboot the machine

Created attachment 14074 [details]
Suggested spec for apply changes on sddm-theme-coffe-ng

I change the spec to apply a patch, I test on my system and works

Created attachment 14075 [details]
Patch to add Mageia Linux Words

Still need to find why on your system not add the machine name

Look if you have this packages

rpm -qa|grep qtquick
qtquickcontrols5-5.15.7-1.mga9
qtquickcontrols25-5.15.7-1.mga9

This is:

[jose@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa|grep qtquick
qtquickcontrols5-5.15.7-1.mga9
qtquickcontrols25-5.15.7-1.mga9
qtquicktimeline6-6.4.1-2.mga9
qtquick3d6-6.4.1-2.mga9
[jose@localhost ~]$

This is with the command:

[jose@localhost ~]$ sddm-greeter --test-mode --theme /usr/share/sddm/themes/mga-coffee-2.0/
[23:09:56.762] (EE) GREETER: Socket error:  "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Nombre inválido"
[23:09:56.762] (WW) GREETER: QFont::fromString: Invalid description '(empty)'
[23:09:56.768] (II) GREETER: Loading file:///usr/share/sddm/themes/mga-coffee-2.0//Main.qml...
[23:09:57.025] (WW) GREETER: file:///usr/share/sddm/themes/mga-coffee-2.0//Main.qml:71:31: Unable to assign [undefined] to double
[jose@localhost ~]$

(In reply to Jose Manuel López from comment #12)
> This is with the command:
> 
> [jose@localhost ~]$ sddm-greeter --test-mode --theme
> /usr/share/sddm/themes/mga-coffee-2.0/
> [23:09:56.762] (EE) GREETER: Socket error:  "QLocalSocket::connectToServer:
> Nombre inválido"
> [23:09:56.762] (WW) GREETER: QFont::fromString: Invalid description '(empty)'
> [23:09:56.768] (II) GREETER: Loading
> file:///usr/share/sddm/themes/mga-coffee-2.0//Main.qml...
> [23:09:57.025] (WW) GREETER:
> file:///usr/share/sddm/themes/mga-coffee-2.0//Main.qml:71:31: Unable to
> assign [undefined] to double
> [jose@localhost ~]$

Same here running as user, so I don't know

Try set as root the hostname again, like in wiki example

hostnamectl set-hostname myhost.local

Try remove all users ~/.Xauthority files

As you can clearly see at the terminal output from Jose, his machine does not have a proper hostname. He still uses the generic „localhost“:
[jose@localhost ~]$

That is the only reason why he sees „Welcome localhost“. The welcome message shows the hostname.So this is intented behaviour.

It is the administrators/user responsibility to give each of his machines a unique hostname…

It is the intented upstream behaviour of SDDM to show hostnames. Instead of patching this behaviour away, either convince the SDDM devs to change the behaviour (which is the same since ages) or educate administrators/users to give their machines unique hostnames…

The installer ought to ask user to set hostname.
I think we have an old bug about it but I failed to find it right now.

Can you too try to find, and if not found issue a bug?

CC: (none) => fri

The installer does not request the host username unless you lift the network. In my case gw installed several VMs with the classic installer without having to indicate the host name. In addition, this will sound to any user unknown... I think the installer should request the host name, when the username is requested, so the user will clearly see this option and put the name that will then appear on the login. In fact, it would indicate a brief description of the objective being that, such as "this name will appear in the welcome greeting on the login screen"

Bug 10077
Bug 21349

Nevertheless, the documentation has it covered howto set hostname via MCC. Advanced user use hostnmectl...
https://doc.mageia.org/mcc/9/en/content/mcc-network.html

MCC covers this when the connection is wired. When creating a Wi-Fi connection, this does not happen. I have verified it several times.

Besides, as I mentioned, very few normal users will care to verify this, if it does not appear on the screen where user data is requested in the installer.

As an advanced user in installing Mageia, I can confirm this...

Precisely, the classic DVD installer is designed so as not to have to lift the network during installation. That is why it is important that this data is requested when the user is created, not when the network is set up.

Because as I mentioned before, a user can install mageia with the complete installer and then connect through the network center to a Wi-Fi network and then, at no time will they see this data.

(In reply to Jose Manuel López from comment #20)
> MCC covers this when the connection is wired. When creating a Wi-Fi
> connection, this does not happen. I have verified it several times.
As can be seen in the documentation, you need to hit the button "advanced". This applies for all connections...



(In reply to Jose Manuel López from comment #21)
> That is why it is important that this data
> is requested when the user is created, not when the network is set up.
This would be wrong as a user account is not related to a hostname. A hostname is a label which is used to identify a computer in a computer network.

(In reply to sturmvogel from comment #22)
> (In reply to Jose Manuel López from comment #20)
> > MCC covers this when the connection is wired. When creating a Wi-Fi
> > connection, this does not happen. I have verified it several times.
> As can be seen in the documentation, you need to hit the button "advanced".

That is what is wrong. This important setting should come up front of user without needing to investigate what is hidden under "Advanced"


 
> (In reply to Jose Manuel López from comment #21)
> > That is why it is important that this data
> > is requested when the user is created, not when the network is set up.
> This would be wrong as a user account is not related to a hostname. A
> hostname is a label which is used to identify a computer in a computer
> network.


Anyway, as one way to make user not miss it, it could practically be on the same screen as when setting up first user. (and while at it also make room for joining wheel group, Bug 26632 )

Practically, users often names their systems like "morgan-laptop" anyway, so it seem logical for home & office use, which are most installations.

One recent experience (bug#32376) probe is wise to add online repositories at install time.

BTW, for the change that Morgan suggest in comment#23 is necessary to open a new report.

What was causing joselp not see the hostname after edit /etc/hostname was found, find the balance between be easy to use and teach to users to read manuals is hard.

@joselp what you think of my suggestions about the package?

I also get "Wellcome to localhost". Is it necessary for the hostname to appear there? I would also prefer "Wellcome to Mageia" or better yet a simple "Mageia Linux" or "Mageia GNU/Linux". Regards.

CC: (none) => squalus

Sorry. I hadn't read Comment 15. I understand this derives from the design of SDDM. Personally, I have changed the hostname with "# hostnamectl set-hostname [new_hostname]".

Regarding setting hostname, ideas in wiki:

https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Add_a_step_in_order_to_choose_computer%27s_name_(installation)

https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:HostnameConfiguration

Created attachment 14077 [details]
patch to show hostname only if it's not localhost

A simple conditional to show the hostname only if its not "localhost"
Something like

"Welcome to Mageia!"
"   My_Host_Name   "

CC: (none) => arusanu

Created attachment 14079 [details]
Alternative patch to show Welcome Mageia in hostname

I try to make the message say in each language
 
Welcome to Mageia 
in <hostname>

But I don't know why it's not showing the hostname :S, just print until the "in" word

 (In reply to katnatek from comment #29)

Use accolades { } when setting text
like this:
 case "fr": { text = text+( sddm.hostName == "localhost" ? "" : "\n dans "+sddm.hostName) };break;

IMO, "in" is a very tricky preposition in various languages. Maybe using "Host:, Computer:, System: or Node:" is more eloquent.

BTW, sddm-greeter in test mode disables some of its more sensitive functions like login, power buttons and, among them, the reading of the host name. So you really need to log out to the sddm screen to see the effects when using sddm.hostName or any other sensitive functions.

I think that, as is being said, the most appropriate thing to do is to modify sddm on that line, so that if there is no host name, it shows "Welcome to Mageia" in the corresponding language.

We are on the right track improving this.

(In reply to Aurelian R from comment #31)
> BTW, sddm-greeter in test mode disables some of its more sensitive functions
> like login, power buttons and, among them, the reading of the host name. So
> you really need to log out to the sddm screen to see the effects when using
> sddm.hostName or any other sensitive functions.

Yes I learn that time ago when start to play with sddm themes, I test change Main.qml of the installed theme, I will try your suggestion and come back latter

(In reply to Jose Manuel López from comment #32)
> I think that, as is being said, the most appropriate thing to do is to
> modify sddm on that line, so that if there is no host name, it shows
> "Welcome to Mageia" in the corresponding language.
> 
> We are on the right track improving this.

Well if I get this change works we will have a nice welcome message regardless of the hostname, and people that take care to set a custom hostname still see the hostname in the message

Created attachment 14081 [details]
new patch

(In reply to katnatek from comment #34)
> Well if I get this change works we will have a nice welcome message
> regardless of the hostname, and people that take care to set a custom
> hostname still see the hostname in the message

My comment #30 does not seem to be enough in order to show the hostname, so I attached a new patch that should fix it.

Regards, A.

(In reply to Aurelian R from comment #30)
>  (In reply to katnatek from comment #29)
> 
> Use accolades { } when setting text
> like this:
>  case "fr": { text = text+( sddm.hostName == "localhost" ? "" : "\n dans
> "+sddm.hostName) };break;
> 
> IMO, "in" is a very tricky preposition in various languages. Maybe using
> "Host:, Computer:, System: or Node:" is more eloquent.

No matter how I handle this, after the comparison with "localhost" sddm.hostName returns empty string :S, that is a bug, but I don't know how to debug that

(In reply to Aurelian R from comment #28)
> Created attachment 14077 [details]
> patch to show hostname only if it's not localhost
> 
> A simple conditional to show the hostname only if its not "localhost"
> Something like
> 
> "Welcome to Mageia!"
> "   My_Host_Name   "

Funny, your patch works and mine not

(In reply to katnatek from comment #37)
The first one (attachment 14077 [details]) was basic, while the second one(attachment 14081 [details]) matches your translation options from your patch without the "switch" and "onCompleted" instructions. 
I think, in your patch, using sddm.hostname inside "Component.onCompleted" doesn't behave as expected.

(In reply to Aurelian R from comment #38)
> (In reply to katnatek from comment #37)
> The first one (attachment 14077 [details]) was basic, while the second
> one(attachment 14081 [details]) matches your translation options from your
> patch without the "switch" and "onCompleted" instructions. 
> I think, in your patch, using sddm.hostname inside "Component.onCompleted"
> doesn't behave as expected.

The second patch works, I think sddm.hostName only can be handled the right way in text: 

https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEPNWDG

Created attachment 14082 [details]
Patch to Enhace Welcome Message

Sorry for my previous comment#40,the changes of Aurelian R, also works using switch
@Jose Manuel, we need you choose between attachment 14077 [details] , attachment 14081 [details] and this one I change "in" by "at"

Attachment 14075 is obsolete: 0 => 1
Attachment 14079 is obsolete: 0 => 1

Patch 14081 is not working correctly, or I am not putting it correctly in the main.qml file.

Patch 14077 works fine:

- If I don't have a hostname it says "Welcome to Mageia!"
- If I have hostname it says "Welcome to Mageia! Jose"

As for the preposition, I think "at" is more appropriate than "in" here.

(In reply to Jose Manuel López from comment #42)
> Patch 14081 is not working correctly, or I am not putting it correctly in
> the main.qml file.
> 
> Patch 14077 works fine:
> 
> - If I don't have a hostname it says "Welcome to Mageia!"
> - If I have hostname it says "Welcome to Mageia! Jose"
> 
> As for the preposition, I think "at" is more appropriate than "in" here.

What I do is this, in terminal in my work folder for mgarepo

mgaerpo co 9/sddm-theme-coffee-ng 
cd sddm-theme-coffee-ng 
then replace the spec by attachment 14074 [details]
you can create in SOURCES folder a file with the pacth you wish to apply

bm -lp

If all goes right, in BUILD folder you should see mga-coffee-2.0 with the Main.qml changed.
I suggest this way and not replace directly Main.qml in sources to fit the Policies for an update

Created attachment 14084 [details]
Patch to Enhace Welcome Message v4

I ask for help in i18n list, I get some suggestions, this patch implements that suggestions

I think with this patch and spec in attachmment 14074, we can release an update for sddm-theme-coffee-ng

Attachment 14082 is obsolete: 0 => 1

(In reply to katnatek from comment #43)
> (In reply to Jose Manuel López from comment #42) 
> What I do is this, in terminal in my work folder for mgarepo
> 
> mgaerpo co 9/sddm-theme-coffee-ng 
> cd sddm-theme-coffee-ng 
> then replace the spec by attachment 14074 [details]
> you can create in SOURCES folder a file with the pacth you wish to apply
> 
> bm -lp
> 
> If all goes right, in BUILD folder you should see mga-coffee-2.0 with the
> Main.qml changed.
> I suggest this way and not replace directly Main.qml in sources to fit the
> Policies for an update

Forgot to say the file name for the patch must be mga-coffe-ng-addmageia.patch

(In reply to katnatek from comment #44)
> Created attachment 14084 [details]
> Patch to Enhace Welcome Message v4
> 
> I ask for help in i18n list, I get some suggestions, this patch implements
> that suggestions
> 
> I think with this patch and spec in attachmment 14074, we can release an
> update for sddm-theme-coffee-ng

Can you ask your mentor to review your spec file and patch and arrange with him to get it pushed (first to cauldron, then to Mageia 9 updates_testing)?

Assignee: bugsquad => j.alberto.vc
Version: 9 => Cauldron
Whiteboard: (none) => MGA9TOO
CC: (none) => marja11

(In reply to Marja Van Waes from comment #46)
> Can you ask your mentor to review your spec file and patch and arrange with
> him to get it pushed (first to cauldron, then to Mageia 9 updates_testing)?
This is Jose Manuel's baby, he is managing this with his mentor

If you want to preview the theme, I upload a package to blogdrake's repository, you don't need to add the repository, just:

urpmi https://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia8/free/noarch/sddm-theme-coffee-ng-2.0-1.0.1bdk_mga8.noarch.rpm

or

urpmi https://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia9/free/noarch/sddm-theme-coffee-ng-2.0-1.0.1bdk_mga9.noarch.rpm

Created attachment 14142 [details]
Diff with changes from the current spec in Cauldron

I also fix a typo in spec attachment#14074 [details]
The patch is attachment#14084 [details]

Created attachment 14146 [details]
Some improves to proposed spec to prepare for future versions of the theme

I tweak the proposed spec, this is the updated changes

The patch is attachment#14084 [details]

Attachment 14074 is obsolete: 0 => 1
Attachment 14142 is obsolete: 0 => 1

We should actually ask ourselves if we should have this custom theme at all. The Breeze theme for SDDM supports having a custom wallpaper set and looks much nicer than this theme altogether.

I would encourage us to consider moving in that direction instead (making a copy of the Breeze SDDM theme and adapting that with a default Mageia background instead of the KDE one).

(In reply to Neal Gompa from comment #51)
> We should actually ask ourselves if we should have this custom theme at all.
> The Breeze theme for SDDM supports having a custom wallpaper set and looks
> much nicer than this theme altogether.
> 
> I would encourage us to consider moving in that direction instead (making a
> copy of the Breeze SDDM theme and adapting that with a default Mageia
> background instead of the KDE one).

Well Breeze sddm the requires kde/ plasma components

import org.kde.plasma.core 2.0 as PlasmaCore
import org.kde.plasma.components 3.0 as PlasmaComponents3
import org.kde.plasma.extras 2.0 as PlasmaExtras

This theme works only with qtquick and sddm components, so is best for including in other desktops where mageia install also sddm as dm manager like in lxqt

(In reply to Neal Gompa from comment #51)
> We should actually ask ourselves if we should have this custom theme at all.
> The Breeze theme for SDDM supports having a custom wallpaper set and looks
> much nicer than this theme altogether.
> 
> I would encourage us to consider moving in that direction instead (making a
> copy of the Breeze SDDM theme and adapting that with a default Mageia
> background instead of the KDE one).

More information https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24861#c66

Send to all packager to see if someone  want to make the change

Hi katnatek,
Thank you for your suggestions.
The string "Welcome to Mageia" is already present and translated in MageiaWelcome. Thus it would be interesting to reuse it.
What I would make is:
use
text: qsTranslate("app", "Welcome to Mageia") in Main.qml

add "translations" subdirectory
inside this directory, create a symlink from /usr/share/mageiawelcome/translations/mageiawelcome_xx.qm xx.qm 
where xx is the language code
This latest part is not fun. However,I have test it and it works.
Papoteur

CC: (none) => yvesbrungard

(In reply to papoteur from comment #55)
> Hi katnatek,
> Thank you for your suggestions.
> The string "Welcome to Mageia" is already present and translated in
> MageiaWelcome. Thus it would be interesting to reuse it.
> What I would make is:
> use
> text: qsTranslate("app", "Welcome to Mageia") in Main.qml
> 
> add "translations" subdirectory
> inside this directory, create a symlink from
> /usr/share/mageiawelcome/translations/mageiawelcome_xx.qm xx.qm 
> where xx is the language code
> This latest part is not fun. However,I have test it and it works.
> Papoteur

Some translations are part of sddm package, the change just adds some strings I don't really get how qml translations works, but I think to integrate the changes must be added to sddm translations, I think is less difficult in the way is handled by suggested changes

(In reply to katnatek from comment #56)
> Some translations are part of sddm package, the change just adds some
> strings I don't really get how qml translations works, but I think to
> integrate the changes must be added to sddm translations, I think is less
> difficult in the way is handled by suggested changes

This theme is not part of SDDM package, thus there is no reason to put the translations in SDDM.

(In reply to papoteur from comment #57)
> (In reply to katnatek from comment #56)
> > Some translations are part of sddm package, the change just adds some
> > strings I don't really get how qml translations works, but I think to
> > integrate the changes must be added to sddm translations, I think is less
> > difficult in the way is handled by suggested changes
> 
> This theme is not part of SDDM package, thus there is no reason to put the
> translations in SDDM.

But all the sddm themes get the basic translations from the sddm translation, at less I don't find another method to add extra translations to sddm themes, If you know of one please let me know

(In reply to katnatek from comment #58)
> (In reply to papoteur from comment #57)
> > (In reply to katnatek from comment #56)
> > > Some translations are part of sddm package, the change just adds some
> > > strings I don't really get how qml translations works, but I think to
> > > integrate the changes must be added to sddm translations, I think is less
> > > difficult in the way is handled by suggested changes
> > 
> > This theme is not part of SDDM package, thus there is no reason to put the
> > translations in SDDM.
> 
> But all the sddm themes get the basic translations from the sddm
> translation, at less I don't find another method to add extra translations
> to sddm themes, If you know of one please let me know

The metadata.desktop of the sddm themes that use translations

/usr/share/sddm/themes/theme-name/metadata.desktop

Have the line

TranslationsDirectory=translations

That is a reference to

/usr/share/sddm/translations

Hi.

Any news about this?

Greetings!