Bug 742 - User details form is difficult to understand if you don't know LDAP attributes
Summary: User details form is difficult to understand if you don't know LDAP attributes
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: Websites
Classification: Unclassified
Component: identity.mageia.org (show other bugs)
Version: trunk
Hardware: i586 Linux
Priority: Normal enhancement
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Sysadmin Team
QA Contact:
URL: https://identity.mageia.org/user
Whiteboard:
Keywords:
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2011-04-09 18:02 CEST by François Jaouen
Modified: 2015-09-10 16:12 CEST (History)
4 users (show)

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Description François Jaouen 2011-04-09 18:02:20 CEST
IMHO, summary is clear enough.

Some suggestion :

Full Name (cn)
First Name (givenName)
Last Name (sn)
Preferred Language (preferredLanguage)

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Comment 1 Buchan Milne 2011-04-18 08:18:47 CEST
I assume you actually mean the form where a user can edit their details after they have completed registration (https://identity.mageia.org/user), not the registration form itself (https://identity.mageia.org/register).

I have tried to make this interface relatively generic (as I have a few non-Mageia use cases for this software). For example, we just use a list of attributes to display (which is configurable in the config file).

I would prefer not to go and write a more "static" list with different names.

The first option I considered was to use the attribute description as a mouseover, but then you have descriptions like this:

attributetype ( 2.5.4.42 NAME ( 'givenName' 'gn' )
        DESC 'RFC2256: first name(s) for which the entity is known by'
        SUP name )

The other option would be to (ab)use the i18n support, make all the attribute names localised, and provide "translations" for the attribute names.

CC: (none) => bgmilne
Summary: New user form is difficult to understand if you don't know LDAP keywords => User details form is difficult to understand if you don't know LDAP attributes

Comment 2 François Jaouen 2011-04-18 09:46:34 CEST
Your assumption is right ; it is the form that's popup _after_ a new user registers to the mageia forum and each time someone logs in.

I understand the _technical_ reasons for the current state of the form but don't forget that this form is used by average users just to register to the forum and they shouldn't be scared by a hardly understandable form. We don't want them to think "Mageia is for geeks, not for me".
Comment 3 Romain d'Alverny 2011-04-18 10:49:29 CEST
(In reply to comment #1) 
> I would prefer not to go and write a more "static" list with different names.

Well, I for one would prefer to do so, but in a separate controller and view, to at least keep the generic one available, just in case. But again, I'm not so confortable yet with Catalyst.

Making the form more humane and static is not a bad thing, provided it is done right - and it's not likely to be too specific so far - even though we would need to make it really specific later on.

> The other option would be to (ab)use the i18n support, make all the attribute
> names localised, and provide "translations" for the attribute names.

That was my first option as well, to at least keep the generic list; but I was not so sure how/where to code this into the app.

CC: (none) => rdalverny

Comment 4 Michael Scherer 2011-04-18 11:14:21 CEST
I would also favor a separate controller/view for that use case, this would be much more flexible for designing the form.

CC: (none) => misc

Comment 5 Marja Van Waes 2011-10-08 21:17:45 CEST
Any news/ changes since 2011-04-18 ?

CC: (none) => marja11

Comment 6 Marja Van Waes 2012-01-11 21:02:06 CET
@ François

Do you think this page makes it more clear for average users?
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia.org_user_account

The old Mageia user accounts FAQ button is going to be replaced with a link to the page mentioned above (bug 3674)
Comment 7 François Jaouen 2012-01-11 21:09:50 CET
I guess so, provided the average user RTFM ;)
Maybe a message like :
"See the FAQ for detailed information on fields"
would be helpful on the form itself.
Rémi Verschelde 2015-09-10 16:12:58 CEST

Assignee: atelier-bugs => sysadmin-bugs


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