Bug 570 - menu.lst entry was wrongly changed after updating the kernel
Summary: menu.lst entry was wrongly changed after updating the kernel
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Mageia
Classification: Unclassified
Component: RPM Packages (show other bugs)
Version: Cauldron
Hardware: i586 Linux
Priority: Normal normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Mageia Bug Squad
QA Contact:
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Whiteboard: Errata
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2011-03-27 15:37 CEST by jclaude verdier
Modified: 2012-04-03 18:52 CEST (History)
7 users (show)

See Also:
Source RPM: bootloader-utils
CVE:
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Description jclaude verdier 2011-03-27 15:37:43 CEST
Description of problem:

Following the updates after new installation, unable to restart Mageia. After some research, I realized that the menu.lst was changed.

menu.lst before updates:

timeout 10

color black/cyan yellow/cyan

gfxmenu (hd0,6)/boot/gfxmenu

default 0



title linux

kernel (hd0,6)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux root=UUID=35859492-ba00-4a03-946a-b75a63be47f4  resume=UUID=ada60f5f-b5a7-46c5-9203-96c9a3465a5c splash=silent vga=788

initrd (hd0,6)/boot/initrd.img



title linux-nonfb

kernel (hd0,6)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux-nonfb root=UUID=35859492-ba00-4a03-946a-b75a63be47f4  resume=UUID=ada60f5f-b5a7-46c5-9203-96c9a3465a5c

initrd (hd0,6)/boot/initrd.img



title failsafe

kernel (hd0,6)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=failsafe root=UUID=35859492-ba00-4a03-946a-b75a63be47f4  failsafe

initrd (hd0,6)/boot/initrd.img



title windows

root (hd1,0)

map (0x81) (0x80)

map (0x80) (0x81)

makeactive

chainloader +1



title Mandriva Linux (Official)

root (hd0,4)

configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst 

menu.lst after updates :

timeout 10

color black/cyan yellow/cyan

gfxmenu (hd1,6)/boot/gfxmenu

default 0



title linux

kernel (hd1,6)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux root=UUID=35859492-ba00-4a03-946a-b75a63be47f4 resume=UUID=ada60f5f-b5a7-46c5-9203-96c9a3465a5c splash=silent vga=788

initrd (hd1,6)/boot/initrd.img



title linux-nonfb

kernel (hd1,6)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux-nonfb root=UUID=35859492-ba00-4a03-946a-b75a63be47f4 resume=UUID=ada60f5f-b5a7-46c5-9203-96c9a3465a5c

initrd (hd1,6)/boot/initrd.img


title failsafe

kernel (hd1,6)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=failsafe root=UUID=35859492-ba00-4a03-946a-b75a63be47f4 failsafe

initrd (hd1,6)/boot/initrd.img



title windows

root (hd0,0)

map (0x81) (0x80)

map (0x80) (0x81)

makeactive

chainloader +1



title Mandriva Linux (Official)

root (hd1,4)

configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst



title 2.6.37.3-server-1.mga

kernel (hd1,6)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37.3-server-1.mga BOOT_IMAGE=2.6.37.3-server-1.mga root=UUID=35859492-ba00-4a03-946a-b75a63be47f4 resume=UUID=ada60f5f-b5a7-46c5-9203-96c9a3465a5c splash=silent vga=788

initrd (hd1,6)/boot/initrd-2.6.37.3-server-1.mga.img



title 2.6.38.1-server-1.mga

kernel (hd1,6)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38.1-server-1.mga BOOT_IMAGE=2.6.38.1-server-1.mga root=UUID=35859492-ba00-4a03-946a-b75a63be47f4 resume=UUID=ada60f5f-b5a7-46c5-9203-96c9a3465a5c splash=silent vga=788

initrd (hd1,6)/boot/initrd-2.6.38.1-server-1.mga.img

hd0 were changed in hd1 (except Windows) in the second update


How reproducible:


Steps to Reproduce:
1.installation
2.first update (glibc, rpm, urpmi etc...)
3.second update (kernel, sofware etc...)


Reproducible: 

Steps to Reproduce:
Ahmad Samir 2011-03-27 17:45:22 CEST

CC: (none) => pterjan
Source RPM: (none) => bootloader-utils

Ahmad Samir 2011-03-27 17:52:17 CEST

CC: (none) => tmb
Component: Release (media, process) => RPM Packages
Summary: unable to restart Mageia after updates => menu.lst entry was wrongly changed after updating the kernel

Comment 1 Magnus Rasche 2011-03-28 19:05:37 CEST
No such problem, when updating to kernel
2.6.38.2-desktop-1.mga some minutes ago

CC: (none) => magnus.mud

Comment 2 Pascal Terjan 2011-03-28 19:09:08 CEST
Had your machine changed since installation? (Disk added/removed/switched/...)
Do you have several hard drives?
Comment 3 Magnus Rasche 2011-03-28 19:23:16 CEST
no changes, from the beginning I use a second hard disk for data

Do need my menu.lst?
Comment 4 Magnus Rasche 2011-03-29 05:53:00 CEST
also no problem on my second machine (only one harddisk)
Comment 5 Dave Hodgins 2011-03-29 06:12:12 CEST
I think the information needed would include the following ...

How did you install (boot from dvd, etc)
While in the installer, where did you install grub (mbr of sda, etc).
When booting (either during install, or after), are you using a
bios option to switch boot disks?

While booted from a cd/dvd (any distro), "sfdisk -l" output.

CC: (none) => davidwhodgins

Comment 6 Magnus Rasche 2011-03-29 07:53:37 CEST
On both machine same way:
- installation alpha2 from dvd,
- grub installed in mbr of sda,
- no use of a bios option

the "sfdisk -l" output will come in the evening,

in the moment I'm using a very wrong os
Comment 7 Magnus Rasche 2011-03-29 17:49:31 CEST
The first machine:
(normal boot is sda; the mark for boot on sdb is there, because I had install an ubuntu, so grub2 was "parked" here)


caine@caine:~$ sfdisk -l

Disk /dev/sdb: 4111 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track
Warning: The partition table looks like it was made
  for C/H/S=*/240/63 (instead of 4111/255/63).
For this listing I'll assume that geometry.
Units = cylinders of 7741440 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0

   Device Boot Start     End   #cyls    #blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *      0+   4367    4368-  33022048+  83  Linux
/dev/sdb2          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
/dev/sdb3          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
/dev/sdb4          0       -       0          0    0  Empty

Disk /dev/sda: 19457 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track
Warning: extended partition does not start at a cylinder boundary.
DOS and Linux will interpret the contents differently.
Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0

   Device Boot Start     End   #cyls    #blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *      0+   1018    1019-   8185086   83  Linux
/dev/sda2       1019+   9066-   8048-  64639684    5  Extended
/dev/sda3          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
/dev/sda4          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
/dev/sda5       1019+   1148     130-   1044193+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda6       1149+   2167    1019-   8185086   83  Linux
/dev/sda7       2168+   3186    1019-   8185086   83  Linux
/dev/sda8       3187+   4126     940-   7550518+  83  Linux
/dev/sda9       4127+   5145    1019-   8185086   83  Linux
/dev/sda10      5146+   6200    1055-   8474256   83  Linux
/dev/sda11      6201+   7219    1019-   8185086   83  Linux
/dev/sda12      7220+   7728     509-   4088511   83  Linux
/dev/sda13      7729+   8458-    730-   5858304   83  Linux
/dev/sda14      8458+   9066-    608-   4881408   83  Linux
caine@caine:~$
Comment 8 Magnus Rasche 2011-03-29 17:57:03 CEST
The second maschine (laptop)

[root@localhost live]# LC_ALL=C sfdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 19457 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track
Warning: extended partition does not start at a cylinder boundary.
DOS and Linux will interpret the contents differently.
Warning: The partition table looks like it was made
  for C/H/S=*/240/63 (instead of 19457/255/63).
For this listing I'll assume that geometry.
Units = cylinders of 7741440 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0

   Device Boot Start     End   #cyls    #blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *      0+   1082    1083-   8187448+  83  Linux
/dev/sda2       1083   18659   17577  132882120    5  Extended
/dev/sda3          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
/dev/sda4          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
/dev/sda5       1083+   1352     270-   2041168+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda6       1353+   2706    1354-  10236208+  83  Linux
/dev/sda7       2707+   6769    4063-  30716248+  83  Linux
/dev/sda8       6770+  16403    9634-  72833008+  83  Linux
/dev/sda9      16404+  17087     684-   5171008+  83  Linux
/dev/sda10     17088+  17360     273-   2063848+  83  Linux
/dev/sda11     17361+  18188     828-   6259648+  83  Linux
/dev/sda12     18189+  18659     471-   3560728+  83  Linux
Comment 9 jclaude verdier 2011-03-29 18:29:41 CEST
- install Mageia Alpha2 from DVD
- grub installer in partition / of Mageia
- not use bios options
- I have 2 hard drive (1 [80Go] with Windows and 1 [500Go] with Mandriva and Mageia)
- no change in my machine
- same problem after the new updates (updates made on 28/03/11)
Comment 10 Magnus Rasche 2011-03-29 18:32:50 CEST
Perhaps you can help with

"While booted from a cd/dvd (any distro), "sfdisk -l" output."
Comment 11 jclaude verdier 2011-03-29 19:50:52 CEST
[root@localhost ~]# sfdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 9726 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track
Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0

   Device Boot Start     End   #cyls    #blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *      0+   3186    3187-  25599546    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2       3187    9724    6538   52516485    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
		start: (c,h,s) expected (1023,254,63) found (1023,0,1)
/dev/sda3          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
/dev/sda4          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
/dev/sda5       3187+   9724    6538-  52516453+   7  HPFS/NTFS
		start: (c,h,s) expected (1023,254,63) found (1023,1,1)

Disk /dev/sdb: 60801 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track
Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0

   Device Boot Start     End   #cyls    #blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *      0+    260     261-   2096451   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb2        261   60800   60540  486287550    5  Extended
/dev/sdb3          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
/dev/sdb4          0       -       0          0    0  Empty
/dev/sdb5        261+   3128    2868-  23037178+  83  Linux
/dev/sdb6      53923+  54183     261-   2096451   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb7      54184+  55776    1593-  12795741   83  Linux
/dev/sdb8      55777+  60800    5024-  40355248+  83  Linux
/dev/sdb9       3129+  53922   50794- 408002773+  83  Linux
Comment 12 Dave Hodgins 2011-03-29 22:39:53 CEST
Magnus,

Seems like a standard installation, where the presence of the second drive shouldn't
matter.  Only other thing I can think of is to check the output of

cat /boot/grub/device.map
Comment 13 Dave Hodgins 2011-03-29 22:42:14 CEST
jclaude, if you are installing the Mageia grub in the root filesystem, what
do you have in the mbr, and how is it starting the Mageia grub?
Comment 14 jclaude verdier 2011-03-30 06:26:59 CEST
- in the mbr, I have the Mandriva grub
- to start Mageia, I configure by MCC of Mandriva (Mageia is /dev/sdb7)
http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1301459177.png
Comment 15 jclaude verdier 2011-03-30 07:02:02 CEST
[landborn@localhost ~]$ cat /boot/grub/device.map
(hd0) /dev/sda
(hd1) /dev/sdb
[landborn@localhost ~]$
Comment 16 Barry Jackson 2011-03-30 17:51:05 CEST
I don't think this issue will go away any time soon.
I recommend reading the following bug which has references to many others all related.
https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=44424#c37

CC: (none) => zen25000

Comment 17 Barry Jackson 2011-03-30 18:03:43 CEST
This includes a good explanation :-

https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=43911#c13

As a general rule I always recommend users with windows on a separate drive to make the Mandriva boot drive hd0 (sda) and make the Windows drive hd1 (sdb) this resolves or avoids this issue.
Comment 18 Magnus Rasche 2011-03-30 21:14:22 CEST
[root@localhost alpha2]# cat /boot/grub/device.map
(hd0) /dev/sda
(hd1) /dev/sdb
[root@localhost alpha2]# 

I think, I have a really normal installation and cannot help.

So I think, it is a good life without windows :-)
On the other side I had installed window xp since july last year and never any problem with updatimg the kernel for my Mandriva installation.
Comment 19 Peter D 2011-05-13 09:59:14 CEST
Wild guess...  

Start by installing a boot loader into ALL MBRs that just chains the next one, then write the real boot loader anywhere?  A bit of a hack, but it might be workable.  

Also during installation select the *other* drive as the booting drive, or edit the devices file and reinstall grub, or try lilo.

CC: (none) => 0123peter

Comment 20 Filip Komar 2011-05-29 23:06:49 CEST
I notice the same problem myself. During install (and update) since alpha 2 for sure. Sorry for not reporting this before.

Today I notice this again after updating (new kernel was there also) and restart. File device.map was changed and of course also menu.lst.

I have Mandriva grub in MBR and Mageia grub is chainloaded from / partition. I have 2 HD for some time w/o config or partitions change other then install of Mageia.

Workaround (change of disk number in each entry of menu.lst) is relatively simple but not exactly for newcomers. Some dialog in case of change of menu.lst and/or device.map would be very useful.

I think this should be added in Errata if still possible.

Not sure which device.map is correct. Here are new Mageia one, than old, working Mandriva and last one from Mageia grub test.

$ cat /boot/grub/device.map
(hd0) /dev/sda
(hd1) /dev/sdb


$ cat /boot/grub/device.map.old 
(hd0) /dev/sdb
(hd1) /dev/sda


# cat /media/mandriva/boot/grub/device.map
(hd0) /dev/sda
(hd1) /dev/sdc


# echo quit | grub --batch --device-map=/tmp/device.map
# cat /tmp/device.map 
(fd0)   /dev/fd0
(hd0)   /dev/sda
(hd1)   /dev/sdb
(hd2)   /dev/sdd


Triple boot (Mandriva, XP and Mageia), smaller HD for backup:
# sfdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 19929 stez, 255 glav, 63 sektorjev/stezo
Enote = steze po 8225280 bajtov, bloki po 1024 bajtov, Å¡tejem od 0

 Naprava Zagon ZaÄetek Konec  #steze    #bloki    Id  Sistem
/dev/sda1   *      0+  19928   19929- 160079661   83  Linux
/dev/sda2          0       -       0          0    0  Prazno
/dev/sda3          0       -       0          0    0  Prazno
/dev/sda4          0       -       0          0    0  Prazno

Disk /dev/sdb: 77825 stez, 255 glav, 63 sektorjev/stezo
Enote = steze po 8225280 bajtov, bloki po 1024 bajtov, Å¡tejem od 0

 Naprava Zagon ZaÄetek Konec  #steze    #bloki    Id  Sistem
/dev/sdb1   *      0+  11412   11413-  91674891    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2      11413   13962    2550   20482875   83  Linux
/dev/sdb3      16512   77825-  61314- 492498880    5  Razširjen
/dev/sdb4      13963   16511    2549   20474842+  83  Linux
/dev/sdb5      16512+  64490-  47979- 385390293+  83  Linux
/dev/sdb6      64491+  77569-  13079- 105054208    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb7      77569+  77825-    256-   2052299   82  Linux izmenjalni / Solaris

# lspcidrake -v
tg3             : Broadcom Corporation|NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (vendor:14e4 device:1677 subv:1028 subd:0179) (rev: 01)
i2c_i801        : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller [SERIAL_SMBUS] (vendor:8086 device:266a subv:1028 subd:0179) (rev: 03)
ata_piix        : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FW (ICH6/ICH6W) SATA Controller [STORAGE_IDE] (vendor:8086 device:2651 subv:1028 subd:0179) (rev: 03)
ata_piix        : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller [STORAGE_IDE] (vendor:8086 device:266f subv:1028 subd:0179) (rev: 03)
iTCO_wdt        : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridge [BRIDGE_ISA] (vendor:8086 device:2640) (rev: 03)
snd_intel8x0    : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:8086 device:266e subv:1028 subd:0179) (rev: 03)
unknown         : Intel Corporation|82801 PCI Bridge [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:244e) (rev: d3)
ehci_hcd        : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:8086 device:265c subv:1028 subd:0179) (rev: 03)
uhci_hcd        : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:8086 device:265b subv:1028 subd:0179) (rev: 03)
uhci_hcd        : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:8086 device:265a subv:1028 subd:0179) (rev: 03)
uhci_hcd        : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:8086 device:2659 subv:1028 subd:0179) (rev: 03)
uhci_hcd        : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:8086 device:2658 subv:1028 subd:0179) (rev: 03)
shpchp          : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 2 [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:2662) (rev: 03)
shpchp          : Intel Corporation|82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:2660) (rev: 03)
unknown         : Intel Corporation|82915G Integrated Graphics Controller [DISPLAY_OTHER] (vendor:8086 device:2782 subv:1028 subd:0179) (rev: 04)
Card:Intel 810 and later: Intel Corporation|82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:8086 device:2582 subv:1028 subd:0179) (rev: 04)
shpchp          : Intel Corporation|82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL PCI Express Root Port [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:2581) (rev: 04)
unknown         : Intel Corporation|82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL Memory Controller Hub [BRIDGE_HOST] (vendor:8086 device:2580 subv:1028 subd:0179) (rev: 04)
hub             : Linux 2.6.38.7-desktop-1.mga uhci_hcd|UHCI Host Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub] (vendor:1d6b device:0001)
hub             : Linux 2.6.38.7-desktop-1.mga uhci_hcd|UHCI Host Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub] (vendor:1d6b device:0001)
usbhid          : Logitech|USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse [Human Interface Device|Boot Interface Subclass|Mouse] (vendor:046d device:c040)
hub             : Linux 2.6.38.7-desktop-1.mga uhci_hcd|UHCI Host Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub] (vendor:1d6b device:0001)
hub             : Linux 2.6.38.7-desktop-1.mga uhci_hcd|UHCI Host Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub] (vendor:1d6b device:0001)
usbhid          : Monterey International Corp.|Genius KB-29E [Human Interface Device|Boot Interface Subclass|Keyboard] (vendor:0566 device:3004)
hub             : Linux 2.6.38.7-desktop-1.mga ehci_hcd|EHCI Host Controller [Hub|Unused|Full speed (or root) hub] (vendor:1d6b device:0002)
usb_storage     : HP|Photosmart D5100 series [Mass Storage|SCSI|Bulk (Zip)] (vendor:03f0 device:c402)
hid_monterey    : HID 0566:3004
hid_monterey    : HID 0566:3004

CC: (none) => filip.komar

Ahmad Samir 2011-05-30 02:57:35 CEST

Whiteboard: (none) => Errata

Comment 21 Barry Jackson 2011-05-30 12:53:54 CEST
If you see this in device.map :-

(hd0) /dev/sdb
(hd1) /dev/sda

Then the simple solution is to physically swap your SATA data cables so that your BIOS detects the correct drive first as (hd0) and that it is assigned to /dev/sda.

This problem occurs because the boot drive is detected second and is assigned (hd1) /dev/sdb.

Again, please read this :-
https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=43911#c18
Comment 22 Peter D 2011-05-30 14:26:55 CEST
Swapping cables is a good idea, but I have seen the problem on a Mandriva installation that has one sata and one pata drive.  Can't swap those.
Comment 23 Filip Komar 2011-05-30 15:48:43 CEST
I have a buggy BIOS abandoned long time ago. It has problems booting from USB (cold boot most of the times works, warm almost never), some USB keyboard have some double strokes in BIOS. So it is possible that BIOS is also a link in this chain to this error.

Unfortunately drive used for all other than backup is SATA and other one is IDE.

As I can't swap drives editing menu.lst is the best option and not problematic for me. But for newcomer this bug is nasty surprise. A warning about drive number change in menu.lst or number other than 0 would be useful.
Comment 24 Manuel Hiebel 2011-07-14 19:25:51 CEST
issue still present with the latest update of the kernel ?
Comment 25 Filip Komar 2011-07-15 00:30:33 CEST
THX for reminding me and obviously a bug fix too. Otherwise I wouldn't even notice because it works for me.

For information:
# cat /boot/grub/device.map
(hd0) /dev/sdb
(hd1) /dev/sda

$ cat /boot/grub/device.map.old 
(hd0) /dev/sda
(hd1) /dev/sdb


Unfortunately grub still see it the old way:
# echo quit | grub --batch --device-map=/tmp/device.map
# cat /tmp/device.map 
(fd0)   /dev/fd0
(hd0)   /dev/sda
(hd1)   /dev/sdb
Comment 26 jclaude verdier 2011-07-15 10:58:23 CEST
Hello

For now, I can not answer you because I have no multiboot. But you give an answer as soon as possible.
Comment 27 Manuel Hiebel 2011-10-02 15:59:07 CEST
No news, no other report, so closing

Status: NEW => RESOLVED
Resolution: (none) => FIXED

Comment 28 Filip Komar 2012-04-03 18:52:59 CEST
Is bug #5076 now a regression of this one?

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