Bug 30089 - distro.ibiblio.org is only a partial mirror, and stopped syncing 2021-11-30
Summary: distro.ibiblio.org is only a partial mirror, and stopped syncing 2021-11-30
Alias: None
Product: Websites
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Other (show other bugs)
Version: trunk
Hardware: All Linux
Priority: Normal major
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Sysadmin Team
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Reported: 2022-02-23 22:31 CET by Pierre Fortin
Modified: 2023-05-05 00:18 CEST (History)
5 users (show)

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Description Pierre Fortin 2022-02-23 22:31:26 CET
Description of problem: Cauldron install fails due to missing compssUsers.pl

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

Cauldron appeared to successfully download from distro.ibiblio.org  However, this one file downloaded an html permission denied message instead.


Downloaded compssUsers.pl from another site and install works now.

How reproducible: Always 

Steps to Reproduce:
1. mirror files from distro.ibiblio.org
Pierre Fortin 2022-02-23 22:43:13 CET

Summary: Cauldron install failed due to missing => Cauldron install failed due to missing compssUsers.pl

Comment 1 sturmvogel 2022-02-24 07:54:39 CET
This mirror is completely out of sync. Last update was 2021.
Comment 2 sturmvogel 2022-02-24 07:57:23 CET
See also here
Comment 3 Thomas Andrews 2022-02-24 14:30:14 CET
Unfortunately, Mageia has no control over the operation of individual mirrors. That is the domain of the owners of each particular mirror.

However, this bug presents us with an opportunity. I believe the focus of this bug should be changed to request that a link to https://mirrors.mageia.org/status be added to the top of the http://mirrors.mageia.org/ page, as sturmvogel proposed on the Discuss mailing list.

In my opinion, it's long overdue.

CC: (none) => andrewsfarm

Filip Komar 2022-02-25 22:48:00 CET

CC: (none) => filip.komar

Comment 4 Jybz 2022-04-05 13:03:28 CEST
Mageia has no control on mirrors, it's true. But Mageia has control on official mirror list are can add/remove any of them.
An administrator is required for such task.

CC: (none) => j.biernacki+mga

Comment 5 Thomas Andrews 2022-04-05 15:18:30 CEST
Yes, it has been done before. See Bug 23588. 

But, it should not be done lightly. Last I knew, ibiblio was a Tier 1 mirror, and has been with Mageia from the beginning. That should not be forgotten. 

I think one of the sysadmins needs to reach out to the ibiblio site admin, if it hasn't already been done, to learn what's going on before summarily dropping it from the list.
Comment 6 Dave Hodgins 2022-04-05 19:48:39 CEST
Re-assigning to the sysadmin team

CC: (none) => davidwhodgins
Assignee: atelier-bugs => sysadmin-bugs

Comment 7 Dave Hodgins 2022-04-05 19:51:40 CEST
Also note that it's only a partial mirror, (no debug or testing repos).
Dave Hodgins 2022-04-05 19:53:37 CEST

Summary: Cauldron install failed due to missing compssUsers.pl => distro.ibiblio.org is only a partial mirror, and stopped syncing 2021-11-30

Comment 8 Pierre Fortin 2022-05-19 17:56:15 CEST

Resolution: (none) => OLD

Comment 9 Dave Hodgins 2022-05-19 18:16:47 CEST
Still needs to be dealt with. It's only a partial mirror and has not
synced updates since 2021-Feb-25 02:16:29

That's 15 months behind currently. It should not be included in mirrorlist,
as any new user whom that mirror has been selected will not see any new updates.

Resolution: OLD => (none)

Comment 10 Thomas Andrews 2022-12-08 23:14:23 CET
During testing of the first round of the Mageia 9 beta1 isos, after an install when I was setting up a specific mirror, I saw that the ibiblio mirror is still on the list of US mirrors. It's probably also somewhere on the list of mirrors on the netinstall isos, and I wouldn't be surprised if some users are getting connected to it through $MIRRORLIST.

We really need to remove this mirror from those two lists, and from $MIRRORLIST. Users are going to have no end of troubles if that doesn't happen.
Morgan Leijström 2022-12-09 16:54:34 CET

Severity: normal => major
CC: (none) => fri
Priority: Normal => release_blocker

Comment 11 Thomas Andrews 2023-03-02 17:49:41 CET
So, we have released the Mageia 9 beta1 isos to the public. Each of those isos contains a provision somewhere along the line where the user has the chance to set up a specific mirror if he or she so chooses, or they can use MIRRORLIST. On each of the iso installs where I chose a specific mirror, ibiblio was still there on the list of possibles, sometimes presented at the top of the list. And after checking, I see that mirror is still many months out of date.

I'm not going to re-iterate why this is very bad for Mageia. I was originally willing to give them a chance to correct the problem, but it has now gone on for far too long. It should be obvious to anyone that the ibiblio mirror needs to be removed from the list.

But unfortunately, that's not enough. The map at https://mirrors.mageia.org/report indicates that there are three additional mirrors that use the ibiblio mirror as a source. They are, of course, equally out of date, and equally useless.

At the very least, beyond removing ibiblio we need to inform the admins of those three mirrors that they need to switch to a different source, and why, and if they don't change, remove them from the list as well.

And as far as I'm concerned, this MUST be done before the final release of Mageia 9. The longer we wait, the worse the consequences to Mageia's reputation will be.
Comment 12 Thomas Andrews 2023-05-05 00:18:50 CEST
I see that quietly, the ibiblio mirror has been removed from the list of Cauldron mirrors on the beta2 isos, and the list of specific mirrors in MCC after the install. Thank you.

Reducing the priority from Mageia 9 release blocker, but leaving it open for Mageia 8 users that might fall into this trap to find.

Priority: release_blocker => Normal

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