Sorry, keystumbled: from * Bug 7988 *

CC: (none) => ouaurelien
Assignee: bugsquad => mageiatools

We stopped supporting Mageia 8 almost 8 months ago 
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Resolution: (none) => OLD
Status: NEW => RESOLVED

Still valid

Status: RESOLVED => REOPENED
Resolution: OLD => (none)
Version: 8 => 9

With all respect this not looks like a bug to me the File menu have an option to 'Add specific media mirror' and is documented in wiki https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Install_media_in_Mageia_for_beginners#Adding_Media_.2F_Official_Repositories , https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Software_management#Choosing_a_specific_media_source & https://doc.mageia.org/mcc/9/en/content/software-management.html#drakrpm-edit-media

The software works as intended, the problem is that the GUI confuse users by having two places to add media. Especially this is a problem that the Add button is so prominent and adds mirrorlist repos without neither asking nor explaining the problems and we have for years problems with some mirrors not syncing and we have no automatic remedy against it and may never have.  There have been several occasions in forum where users get in problem from mirrorlist.

(In reply to Morgan Leijström from comment #5)
> The software works as intended, the problem is that the GUI confuse users by
> having two places to add media. Especially this is a problem that the Add
> button is so prominent and adds mirrorlist repos without neither asking nor
> explaining the problems and we have for years problems with some mirrors not
> syncing and we have no automatic remedy against it and may never have. 
> There have been several occasions in forum where users get in problem from
> mirrorlist.

I've had them myself. Years ago, when I first joined QA, I used mirrorlist on some of my computers because that was the default presented to our users. I can recall one particular time when we had a series of important updates come through, and one of my mirrorlist computers got the updates three days before the other. Mirrorlist is broken, and as far as I know always has been.

So if there is some way to make the existence of the ability to choose a specific mirror more prominent and easier for new users to find, I'm all for it.

CC: (none) => andrewsfarm

As of Mageia 9, the installers give the user the opportunity to choose a specific mirror, or to use MIRRORLIST. Perhaps something like that would be an idea.

Changing this to a Cauldron bug, with MGA9TOO, as that is where any changes we might make to drakrpm-edit-media would happen first.

Version: 9 => Cauldron
Whiteboard: (none) => MGA9TOO

I think we must provide dynamic mirrorlists whit just good shape mirrors and then make urpmi/dnf update the list as first step in updates

That is a good idea to remedy the mirrorlist problem itself :)

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Anyway that is separate from this bug which is about how to make sure user always is presented with a choice about using mirrorlist or a manually chosen mirror.

(In reply to Morgan Leijström from comment #9)
> That is a good idea to remedy the mirrorlist problem itself :)
> 
> ---
> 
> Anyway that is separate from this bug which is about how to make sure user
> always is presented with a choice about using mirrorlist or a manually
> chosen mirror.

Two things, 1) If we can make something like I propose we not need to change drakrpm-edimedia; 2) If we don't do that, even if we change drakrpm-editmedia the users still can select a rotten mirror.

The point I try to make in this bug is the interface.

It is like having "export as jpeg, tiff, bmp" in a menu, and "export as png" as a button.

Not having all related options to choose from easily fools the user that there is no other options, and miss them.


I suggest button to bring up a dialogue of all choices; mirrorlist and specific mirrors.

(And maybe remove the menu entry for it, as now the button is enough - or make the menu entry bring up same dialogue.)

(In reply to Morgan Leijström from comment #11)
> The point I try to make in this bug is the interface.
> 
> It is like having "export as jpeg, tiff, bmp" in a menu, and "export as png"
> as a button.
> 
> Not having all related options to choose from easily fools the user that
> there is no other options, and miss them.
> 
> 
> I suggest button to bring up a dialogue of all choices; mirrorlist and
> specific mirrors.
> 
> (And maybe remove the menu entry for it, as now the button is enough - or
> make the menu entry bring up same dialogue.)

The feature request is fine but the mirrors available to select are obtained from the mirrorlist so If the mirrorlist contain rotten mirrors the users still can select one of them