Description of problem: The current version released is LSB 4.1 and the latest version is LSB 5. This is the first version we actually changes backwards compatibility with previous versions, prior to 3. This update would also be able to remove older packages that are only needed for the 4.1 compatibility. This is most likely just requiring updating some package version dependencies, and adding a few new ones.
CC: (none) => ngompa13Source RPM: lsb-lib-4.1 => lsb-4.1-20.mga6.src.rpm
Assigning to all packagers collectively, since there is no registered maintainer for this package.
Assignee: bugsquad => pkg-bugsCC: (none) => geiger.david68210, jani.valimaa, marja11, pterjan, stewbintn
LSB 5.0 would also let us kill Qt3 entirely, per https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/en/ReleaseNotes50#Qt_3_Removed
CC: (none) => LpSolitTarget Milestone: --- => Mageia 7Summary: Current LSB version is old, 4.1 => Update LSB version to 5.0 (currently at 4.1)
Priority: Normal => HighSeverity: enhancement => normal
See Also: (none) => https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1298936
CC: jani.valimaa => (none)
Shouldn't it be promoted to release blocker so that we can kill Qt3 entirely?
Priority: High => release_blockerTarget Milestone: Mageia 7 => Mageia 8CC: (none) => olav
Hi, This is release_blocker for a reason. Making Mageia even better than ever is best direction. In order to do right thing, this bug should be examined and fixed as soon as possible. Packagers, please change the status to "Assigned" when you are working on this. We will make a decision on the relevance of the release_blocker tag on 1st October 2020 QA meeting.
https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/LSB_5.0.0/allspecs.shtml
Ping! I'd like to see this being updated as well.
CC: (none) => lovaren
http://ftp.linuxfoundation.org/pub/lsb/bundles/released-5.0.0/
OpenMandriva has the updated version here: https://abf.openmandriva.org/build_lists/773973 I don't know why they name it as version 11.0 though.
I briefly looked into this but it's not clear at all what needs to be done. Loads of links plainly do not work. There's specifications, cool, but normally we get a tarball and package that up. I'm not going to go through a specification in detail and then hope for the best in some spec file. I'd rather drop the entire lsb thing.
If we drop it, we can more easily solve Bug 24139 - Rename fastboot-android into just fastboot
See Also: (none) => https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24139CC: (none) => fri
Status? This is really a blocker one?
CC: (none) => ouaurelien
Status is the same as it was; no movement on this (from us or Fedora). We made it a blocker because we'd like to not have to maintain Qt3 forever. It will probably not be fixed for Mageia 8 though. We can change the target milestone once 9 is added as an option in Bugzilla.
Yeah, I seriously doubt anyone want/can/will be able to go through all the docs and ensure we have all bits and what cant be dropped as we are now are in RC stage... Lets try to get it done for mga9
Target Milestone: Mageia 8 => Mageia 9Priority: release_blocker => High
Instead of wasting resources working on this, I would suggest to drop LSB packages entirely, which would also mean removing the remaining Qt3 libraries and other old and obsolete libraries (if any). Per https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lsb-discuss/2023-February/008278.html, "the LSB project is essentially abandoned". Also, per https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2118596#c1, Fedora is not willing to waste energy on LSB 5.0 port either. What do you think?
Target Milestone: Mageia 9 => ---
What is this standardisation today helpful for? i.e Appimages? (seem to depend on some libs sometimes)
Note that Debian and Ubuntu also dropped support for LSB: https://lwn.net/Articles/658809/ https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/9.20150917ubuntu1 The changelog mentions: "Drop all the LSB compatibility packages besides lsb-release and lsb-base". And the lsb-base description mentions: "This is an empty package; it's needed only because of Provides: not being supported in debootstrap. It can be safely removed.". So it's basically an empty package. If Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu all dropped support for LSB, I see no point for Mageia to still support it.
On my main m8 install ... # grep -lr lsb-release /usr/bin/* /usr/sbin/* /usr/libexec/* 2>/dev/null /usr/bin/clementine /usr/bin/doveconf /usr/bin/inxi /usr/bin/lsb-release /usr/bin/lsb_release /usr/bin/remmina /usr/bin/zmtelemetry.pl /usr/sbin/alsa-info.sh /usr/sbin/dkms /usr/sbin/gtk-lshw /usr/sbin/lshw
CC: (none) => davidwhodgins
lsb_release is not a problem. It can stay. It's a tiny package and all it does is to display this information: $ lsb-release -a LSB Version: * Distributor ID: Mageia Description: Mageia 9 Release: 9 Codename: mga9 But all other LSB packages and dependencies which are here only to make it happy should die.