Bug 15489 - palemoon, Pale Moon browser - Open Source, Firefox-based web browser efficient, stripped of unnecessary features
Summary: palemoon, Pale Moon browser - Open Source, Firefox-based web browser efficien...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: Mageia
Classification: Unclassified
Component: New RPM package request (show other bugs)
Version: Cauldron
Hardware: All Linux
Priority: Normal enhancement
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: All Packagers
QA Contact:
Depends on:
Reported: 2015-03-14 03:27 CET by f1490704
Modified: 2019-03-25 22:39 CET (History)
4 users (show)

See Also:
Source RPM: palemoon
Status comment:

basic spec for basilisk (serpent) (9.44 KB, text/plain)
2019-03-25 22:28 CET, katnatek
basic spec for palemoon (newmoon) (9.06 KB, text/plain)
2019-03-25 22:29 CET, katnatek
basic spec for newmoon's langpacks (11.67 KB, text/plain)
2019-03-25 22:39 CET, katnatek

Description f1490704 2015-03-14 03:27:54 CET

I just wanted to request that Pale Moon browser be added to the repository. Here's a link to the website http://www.palemoon.org/, sourceforge page http://sourceforge.net/projects/pm4linux/ and redistribution license http://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml.



Steps to Reproduce:
Mike Crecelius 2015-04-05 03:19:33 CEST

CC: (none) => mike.crecelius
Summary: Pale Moon browser -- Open Source, Firefox-based web browser => palemoon, Pale Moon browser - Open Source, Firefox-based web browser efficient, stripped of unnecessary features
Source RPM: (none) => palemoon

Comment 1 Samuel Verschelde 2016-10-11 20:55:01 CEST
Assigning this package request to all packagers collectively. On a voluntary basis, one of them might want to integrate it to the distribution and maintain it for bug and security fixes.

You might also want to join the packager team to maintain this piece of software: see https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager

Assignee: bugsquad => pkg-bugs

Comment 2 Keith Bowes 2017-02-20 01:30:48 CET
This is a good idea.  Considering how each version of Firefox strips out more and more useful features, there's probably going to be an increased demand for alternative browsers.  One that retains the look and feel of old Firefox versions is likely to capture the hearts and minds of current Firefox users.

The current Firefox ESR removed one of my favorite features.  I was able to find an add-on to restore it, but of course, when they remove plug-ins and "legacy" add-ons (i.e. 100% of my installed add-ons) during the course of this year, that's not going to be possible anymore.

Judging from the Wiki page, it's a bit of a pain to be a packager.  You seem to have to put yourself on a waiting list until someone has the time to take you under their wing.

CC: (none) => zooplah

Helge Hielscher 2017-03-08 01:03:30 CET

CC: (none) => hhielscher

Comment 3 aguador 2018-02-03 21:02:57 CET
Perhaps now that a number of new packagers have graduated, someone can take this up.

When Pale Moon was a Windows-only application it outperformed Firefox. Although I was not initially impressed with its Linux incarnation, it does offer good functionality and some compatibility with earlier versions of FF.

However, now there are two very good reasons to bring PM into Mageia world.

First, the latest FF, while highly praised, leaves those of us who find some add-ons essential, out in the cold. In my case, the loss of Tab Mix Plus is unacceptable, despite the performance gains which I assume to be real but not obvious in my case. TMP has 10s of thousands of lines of code that need to be rewritten and it is not clear that this will happen. Further, those who use Session Manager are also out of luck, except there is a limited interim extension that gives some relief there.

Second, Pale Moon's Basilisk Browser (https://basilisk-browser.org/) project holds a great deal of promise for the future of the browser. At the moment it is a FF50-something UI that is being used to build on/extend the core technology that FF is abandoning (while being Rust free). PM has already shown with its Goanna engine that it can improve on what FF has done and I trust that its current endeavors will yield similar results.

I am more agile with words than code and could go on, but I will keep it short and simply state that PM seems to be rapidly becoming the prime alternative to Chromium and should be included in the Mageia repositories.

PS Basilisk has just become my default browser in Cauldron and the one on which I am writing this. Clearly this is a personal opinion, but I believe that FF has lost is way. While improving some basics, it has again (following the Australis change) ignored its user base.

CC: (none) => waterbearer54

Comment 4 katnatek 2019-03-21 21:06:28 CET
I build newmoon (unofficial brach for palemoon), but i have issues with playing youtube videos :(

Is sad because on a similar machine with XP a third-party custom build of palemoon works well in that site

I don't know if the fact that the build is made with only the free repositories is related to the performance issue but in other sites report the same (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=93807&start=645)

I don't upload to blogdrake's repository because i can't recommend something considered useless by my self
Comment 5 katnatek 2019-03-24 03:13:26 CET
I make other build using bundled icu and the performance improves
palemoon in the newmoon brand and basilisk in the serpent brand will land soon in blogdrake's repositories with langpacks for newmoon and ublock extension for both newmoon and serpent

I upload the spec later when i made the final cleaning so they can be used and refined for official use in mageia
Comment 6 katnatek 2019-03-25 22:28:33 CET
Created attachment 10883 [details]
basic spec for basilisk (serpent)

Originally i start with this but i focused in palemoon (newmoon)
Comment 7 katnatek 2019-03-25 22:29:47 CET
Created attachment 10884 [details]
basic spec for palemoon (newmoon)
Comment 8 katnatek 2019-03-25 22:39:22 CET
Created attachment 10885 [details]
basic spec for newmoon's langpacks

And for last, a spec to generate the langpacks (even upstream palemoon is in en-US by default)

The file langpack-warning refered in the spec just have the same final warning that each description section

"If you install this langpack before start newmonn 
the langpack is disabled by default you need enable in
about:addons -> languages

Also you need to install manually pm-localeswitch

The first part of the warning is based in my test.

P.D. basilisk for the moment don't have langpacks

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