Bug 11446 - consider making the size of the classic installation iso's smaller
Summary: consider making the size of the classic installation iso's smaller
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Mageia
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Release (media or process) (show other bugs)
Version: Cauldron
Hardware: All Linux
Priority: Normal enhancement
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Anne Nicolas
QA Contact:
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Keywords: 6sta1
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2013-10-11 20:35 CEST by nikos papadopoulos
Modified: 2022-10-24 01:13 CEST (History)
9 users (show)

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Description nikos papadopoulos 2013-10-11 20:35:54 CEST
Description of problem:

According to Mageia's website,
the size of the " Mageia-4-alpha3-i586-DVD.iso " is 3.9 GB.
Some  programs report it as 3.8 GB, while others up to 4.1 GB.

Whichever is the case, 
it is likely that it won't fit in 4 GB memory flash card
(it doesn't fit in mine)
because their actual capacity could be as low as 3.69 GB.!!!
See:
   http://gbatemp.net/threads/actual-capacity-of-a-kingston-4gb-micro-sd-card.242473/

USB sticks seem to have the same issue.
See:
   http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/275755-32-sandisk-cruzer-flash-drive-formatting-full-size


I guess, that the size of the ISOs is related to the maximum size of a file,
that a fat32 partition can handle.
Now you know of another restriction.



Reproducible: 

Steps to Reproduce:
Comment 1 Manuel Hiebel 2013-10-11 21:18:32 CEST
beside removing lxde and mate which is only partial (it is the rpmsrate that pull some package inside it but not the needed one like (guess) -panel ?)
I found nothing personally, cinnamon could be good to keep

Assignee: bugsquad => ennael1

Comment 2 Dave Hodgins 2013-10-12 01:16:52 CEST
What does the following command show for the "4 GB" card?

udisks --show-info /dev/sde |grep -e size

Replace sde with the appropriate device.

CC: (none) => davidwhodgins

Comment 3 nikos papadopoulos 2013-10-13 00:59:03 CEST
For Kingston SDHC 4GB SD-K04G 1042 WG6417F ...

bash-4.2$ udisks --show-info /dev/sdc |grep -e size
  size:                        3957325824
  block size:                  512
Comment 4 Dave Hodgins 2013-10-13 16:53:06 CEST
Thanks. So the i586 dvd needs to shrink by 138,412,032 bytes,
and the x86 dvd by 98,566,144 bytes.

Anne, removing the kernel-source and the qt4-doc from both
should be enough to make them fit.

I'll keep this bug bookmarked, and check the iso sizes for beta 1.
Comment 5 Dave Hodgins 2013-11-06 23:58:58 CET
The beta1 i586 is currently 4150263808 bytes, so it needs to shrink by
192,937,984 bytes.

The beta1 x86_64 iso is 4143972352 byes, so it needs to shrink by 186,646,528
bytes.

Removing the kernel-source, and qt4-doc would remove around 200MB, and get
the iso images to fit on a "4GB" stick.

Whiteboard: (none) => 4beta1
Hardware: i586 => All

Dave Hodgins 2013-11-07 00:00:11 CET

CC: (none) => eeeemail

Comment 6 claire robinson 2013-11-07 08:08:25 CET
kernel devel are needed by dkms but we can certainly drop source if it helps, yes, and qt4-doc. I agree with Dave, these would be easy packages to lose.
Comment 7 Anne Nicolas 2013-11-07 22:18:56 CET
both packages added in exclude list of bcd for DVDs
Comment 8 Dave Hodgins 2013-12-03 22:54:06 CET
The beta2 x86_64 dvd is currently 3,961,520,128 bytes. Just over the
3,957,325,824 limit.

Looking at the packages included, I'd recommend removing stellarium.
Comment 9 Dave Hodgins 2013-12-06 00:27:27 CET
Just a reminder, before the new iso images are built that the size limit is
3,957,325,824 bytes, which the latest beta2 x86_64 iso image is over.
Comment 10 Anne Nicolas 2013-12-15 23:14:20 CET
Fixed in beta 2 isos

Status: NEW => RESOLVED
Resolution: (none) => FIXED

Comment 11 Dave Hodgins 2013-12-15 23:47:20 CET
I think this bug should be kept open till the final is released, just to
make sure we don't forget about it.

Status: RESOLVED => REOPENED
Resolution: FIXED => (none)

Comment 12 Anne Nicolas 2013-12-16 01:31:24 CET
Closing this bug. There is now a warning included in bcd to avoid too big isos

Status: REOPENED => RESOLVED
Resolution: (none) => FIXED

Comment 13 Dave Hodgins 2014-01-30 19:31:19 CET
Latest final x86_64 dvd is over again.

Status: RESOLVED => REOPENED
Resolution: FIXED => (none)

Comment 14 Dave Hodgins 2014-01-30 19:37:47 CET
It needs to shrink by 5,242,880 bytes.

I'd remove either gnuchess (18M) or celestia 33M).
Comment 15 Thomas Backlund 2014-01-30 19:58:33 CET
Ah, yeah this is a fallout of adding uefi stub to the iso

and we also need to add efibootmgr, but that is only ~100k extra

CC: (none) => tmb

Comment 16 claire robinson 2014-01-30 20:11:59 CET
LXDE was added back in this last round too. It's looking OK though.
Comment 17 Dave Hodgins 2014-01-31 03:07:21 CET
Latest x86_64 dvd iso is 3890216960 bytes, so well within the 3957325824 byte limit.

Closing the bug report.

Resolution: (none) => FIXED
Status: REOPENED => RESOLVED

Comment 18 Dave Hodgins 2016-01-21 07:53:56 CET
Mageia-6-dev1-x86_64-DVD.iso is 4395157504 bytes.

Resolution: FIXED => (none)
Status: RESOLVED => REOPENED

Marja Van Waes 2016-02-06 18:56:23 CET

CC: (none) => marja11
Whiteboard: 4beta1 => 6dev1

Dave Hodgins 2016-03-17 20:59:29 CET

Whiteboard: 6dev1 => (none)
Keywords: (none) => 6dev1

William Kenney 2016-03-17 21:18:14 CET

CC: (none) => wilcal.int

Comment 19 Dave Hodgins 2016-04-29 01:17:19 CEST
Mageia-6-sta1-i586-DVD.iso is 30,408,704 bytes over the limit.

Keywords: 6dev1 => 6sta1

Comment 20 andré blais 2016-12-05 20:56:46 CET
To make it easier to fit packages on the the iso's, I think we should change the limit to that of a standard DVD iso, which is about 4.7 Gb or 4.37 Gib.
This will give us about 10% more space.

Thus requiring a USB key of 8G, since a 4G key has a little less than 4G usable space.  8G USB keys are very inexpensive, and often the smallest size available in many stores.

CC: (none) => andre999mga

Comment 21 Adam H 2017-01-22 21:58:03 CET
(In reply to andré blais from comment #20)
> To make it easier to fit packages on the the iso's, I think we should change
> the limit to that of a standard DVD iso, which is about 4.7 Gb or 4.37 Gib.
> This will give us about 10% more space.
> 
> Thus requiring a USB key of 8G, since a 4G key has a little less than 4G
> usable space.  8G USB keys are very inexpensive, and often the smallest size
> available in many stores.

I agree.  4GB USB flash drives are becoming unavailable in stores, with the next smallest size being 8GB.  The DVD size makes sense.

CC: (none) => sharpzq4300

Comment 22 Ben McMonagle 2017-03-20 09:08:53 CET
Mageia-6-sta2-i586-DVD.iso
DATE.txt: Tue Mar  14 22:44:58 CET 2017

and

Mageia-6-sta2-x86_64-DVD.iso
DATE.txt: Tue Mar  14 22:53:37 CET 2017

can now be written to 4GB USB drive

CC: (none) => westel

Ben McMonagle 2017-03-20 09:09:20 CET

Summary: consider making the size of the clasic istallation iso's smaller => consider making the size of the classic installation iso's smaller

Comment 23 Dave Hodgins 2017-11-08 05:06:19 CET
This decision has been made to stop supporting 4GB usb sticks. The limit is
now back to being based on the size of a single layer dvd drive, 4.38GiB.
Closing the bug report.

Resolution: (none) => FIXED
Status: REOPENED => RESOLVED

Comment 24 Dave Hodgins 2022-10-24 01:13:02 CEST
For future reference, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD
the limit for a +R single layer dvd is 4,700,372,992 bytes.

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