Bug 5494 - mate, MATE: a gnome 2 based environment
Summary: mate, MATE: a gnome 2 based environment
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Mageia
Classification: Unclassified
Component: New RPM package request (show other bugs)
Version: Cauldron
Hardware: All Linux
Priority: Normal enhancement
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Mageia Bug Squad
QA Contact:
URL: http://mate-desktop.org
Whiteboard: Mdv
Keywords:
: 7972 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2012-04-19 20:30 CEST by setlec seta
Modified: 2013-08-05 23:20 CEST (History)
7 users (show)

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Description setlec seta 2012-04-19 20:30:03 CEST
Description of problem:

"MATE is a fork of Gnome 2.

It provides an intuitive and attractive desktop to Linux users using traditional metaphors."

Gnome 3 has become a tablet interface which isn't really intuitive, so for those those who want a real traditional desktop, "Mate" is a good option. IMO after a decade or so of using gnome this is a real good option.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): 1.2
http://mate-desktop.org/2012/04/16/mate-1-2-released/

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Manuel Hiebel 2012-04-19 21:24:46 CEST

Summary: A gnome 2 based environment => Mate: a gnome 2 based environment

Comment 1 Manuel Hiebel 2012-06-07 01:56:17 CEST
Mattydaw is currently building mate in cooker (mdv)

Whiteboard: (none) => Mdv

Helge Hielscher 2012-08-01 02:30:16 CEST

CC: (none) => hhielscher

Comment 2 setlec seta 2012-08-01 04:01:09 CEST
since my request for mageia 3 feature went to scrap 'cause they do prefer cinnamon (gnome 3 without its shell), it's a waste of time to see this ahppening any time soon, gone to arch linux.

Cheers
Comment 3 Marja Van Waes 2012-12-18 15:21:42 CET
*** Bug 7972 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

CC: (none) => ottosa

Marja Van Waes 2012-12-18 15:23:56 CET

CC: (none) => marja11
Summary: Mate: a gnome 2 based environment => mate, MATE: a gnome 2 based environment

Comment 4 Sandro CAZZANIGA 2013-01-13 10:17:52 CET
Ping, is Mate totally in mageia for version 3?

Thanks :)

CC: (none) => cazzaniga.sandro

Christiaan Welvaart 2013-01-21 02:42:34 CET

CC: (none) => cjw

Comment 5 setlec seta 2013-01-21 12:34:22 CET
Well the thing is that the devs don't want to maintain mate because it is a clone of cinnamon. Look at features for mageia 3.
Comment 6 setlec seta 2013-01-21 12:35:02 CET
Well the thing is that the devs don't want to maintain mate because it is a clone of cinnamon. Look at features for mageia 3.
Comment 7 Christiaan Welvaart 2013-01-21 15:27:17 CET
MATE is not a clone of cinnamon, you read that wrong. AFAIK the comment on the feature page refers to this: someone started packaging cinnamon and caused problems because the muffin package interfered with mutter (muffin is a fork of the mutter window manager from gnome). Apparently someone thought MATE would also suffer from such problems, but that is not true (anymore). MATE is now in fedora 18/17/16, it wouldn't be there if it interfered with gnome.

I got MATE 1.5.x basics working using a few things from gnome3:
  - gnome-session
  - gnome-settings-daemon

(and I want it to use the "old" libwnck)

This means for example the font anti-aliasing settings in mate-control-center -> appearance don't work and I need to remove them from the UI. Not sure what happened to them in gnome3.
Comment 8 Atilla ÖNTAŞ 2013-04-25 16:26:37 CEST
I'm trying to package Mate, based on Fedora RPMs. If all go well and after some testing i'll ask for Mate at devel mailing-list.

CC: (none) => tarakbumba

Comment 9 setlec seta 2013-04-25 16:42:43 CEST
(In reply to Atilla ÃNTAÅ from comment #8)
> I'm trying to package Mate, based on Fedora RPMs. If all go well and after
> some testing i'll ask for Mate at devel mailing-list.

this is a good news, after being denied as a feature request I was kinda disappointed in mageia. Thx Atilla for your hard work.
Comment 10 Sandro CAZZANIGA 2013-04-25 16:43:16 CEST
It's nice of you but too late to let MATE goes in cauldron. Mageia 3 will be release in two weeks so we only let security fixes now.
Comment 11 setlec seta 2013-04-25 16:51:35 CEST
i did a long time ago https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Mate
Comment 12 Sandro CAZZANIGA 2013-04-25 16:53:43 CEST
As we are at two weeks of the offical release, It will be pushed for Mageia 4 I guess.

Thanks for your work.
Comment 13 setlec seta 2013-04-25 16:59:23 CEST
@Sandro https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia3_Review#Refused_features this was made early 2012 along my request. it's been quite a while since  my last login in here.
Comment 14 Sandro CAZZANIGA 2013-04-25 17:01:43 CEST
The main problem is to have someone to maintain all MATE environnment. We can't import this and then let it without maintainers.
Comment 15 Christiaan Welvaart 2013-04-25 18:21:39 CEST
Hi Atilla, sorry for not replying to your mail on the dev list. I have basically the following packaged, still using some gnome stuff like gnome-session:

libmatekbd
libmateweather
mate-applets
mate-common
mate-control-center
mate-desktop
mate-dialogs
mate-doc-utils
mate-file-manager
mate-icon-theme
mate-menus
mate-notification-daemon
mate-panel
mate-sensors-applet
mate-system-monitor
mate-terminal
mate-utils
mate-window-manager

also started on mate-power-manager but I don't have a notebook that runs mageia so hard to test.

I put the src.rpms at http://www.time4t.net/~cjw/mageia/cauldron/SRPMS/ so you can take a look at them if you want.
Comment 16 Atilla ÖNTAŞ 2013-04-25 21:08:28 CEST
Hi again. I know that it is too late for Mageia3. Again, if all goes well i'll ask for support at devel mailing list. You see, i'm a packager apprentice, if someone supports me i intend to maintain MATE, as long as Fedora or OpenSuse supports it. Based on those distros packages i think it is not hard to packaging MATE. Also, MATE is under heavy development and soon remaining problems get fixed.

Thank you Christian Welvaart. I' ll look into your packages and i'm sure they will help me a lot. Please mail me to contact if you want to package MATE and give me a hand at tarakbumba at gmail dot com.
Comment 17 Atilla ÖNTAŞ 2013-05-08 07:43:04 CEST
(In reply to Atilla ÃNTAÅ from comment #16)
Packages ready for x86_64. All built in a clean chroot environment and signed by my personal gpg key. Only a few component remained unpackaged. I' ll try to provide i586 packages soon. Please see:

https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Mate

https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4867#p34094

Please test and feedback. After Mageia3  release and some testing and feedback, i'll ask for MATE at devs mailing list.
Comment 18 Malo Deniélou 2013-08-05 23:20:45 CEST
MATE is now in Cauldron. It will be in Mageia 4. Thanks. I'll close this bug.

Status: NEW => RESOLVED
CC: (none) => pierre-malo.denielou
Resolution: (none) => FIXED


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