Bug 5334 - apache open office 4.0 (with source code from IBM Lotus Symphony 3.0.1 )
Summary: apache open office 4.0 (with source code from IBM Lotus Symphony 3.0.1 )
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Mageia
Classification: Unclassified
Component: New RPM package request (show other bugs)
Version: Cauldron
Hardware: All Linux
Priority: Normal enhancement
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Mageia Bug Squad
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URL: http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/...
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: 11565 (view as bug list)
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Reported: 2012-04-10 19:07 CEST by Andrew
Modified: 2014-09-16 10:08 CEST (History)
8 users (show)

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Description Andrew 2012-04-10 19:07:34 CEST
NOTE: It only comes as 32-bit so 64-bit editions of Mageia will need support for running 32-bit applications if not already present by default. I learned this the hard way with Fedora 16 and had to manually install support.

This is my favorite cost-free office alternative so far, it handles long, advanced native Word documents MUCH better than the current version of OpenOffice and LibreOffice (which have corrupted my files in the past, especially when saved in native MSOffice format). Its spell and grammer check also doesn't crash in large documents like Libre does.

To make things even nicer, its going to be completely free (in all senses) once it merges with Apache OpenOffice and becomes Apache OpenOffice IBM Edition.

This wonderful office suite for whatever reason is not available in ANY distro's repo (including non-free and tainted equivlants) and should by all means be made available due to its enhanced stability with native MS Office docs as well as making cleaner conversions to Open Document formats.
Marek Laane 2012-04-10 19:14:41 CEST

CC: (none) => bald

Andrew 2012-04-11 21:48:47 CEST

URL: http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/search.jsp?q=&pf=&S_TACT=&S_CMP=&status=Active&sr=1&cat=&q0=&k=ALL&b=&pn=&pid=&rs=swg-normandy&fpf=Linux&fdt=&flang=&sb=rd&ibm-go.x=14&ibm-go.y=19 => http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/nochargesearch.jsp?S_TACT=&S_CMP=&s=&k=ALL&pid=&q=&ibm-search=Search&dt=RELEASED+PRODUCT&pf=Linux&b=Lotus&q0=

Helge Hielscher 2012-05-24 23:28:48 CEST

CC: (none) => hhielscher

Comment 1 D Morgan 2012-06-23 21:58:21 CEST
where are the sources ? this is an opensource product ?

CC: (none) => dmorganec

Comment 2 Marja Van Waes 2012-06-29 22:00:09 CEST
(In reply to comment #1)
> where are the sources ? this is an opensource product ?

@ D Morgan

Here http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/14/ibm_symphony_goes_to_asf/

I read:

> On Wednesday, IBM said it will donate the standalone version of Lotus Symphony > to Apache's OpenOffice.org project under an Apache 2.0 license.

So that would be this one
http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0


@ Andrew

Sorry, package requests are supposed to have "normal" priority.

Leaving the "RPM Package:" field open because I don't know what the name of the package will be

Priority: High => Normal
CC: (none) => marja11
Hardware: i586 => All
Target Milestone: Mageia 2 => Mageia 3

Comment 3 D Morgan 2012-06-29 22:09:46 CEST
yes but where are the sources ? i can't find them
Comment 4 Marja Van Waes 2012-06-29 22:52:19 CEST
(In reply to comment #3)
> yes but where are the sources ? i can't find them

They don't exist yet.

On wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Lotus_Symphony I read:

> IBM Lotus Symphony was discontinued in January 2012 with the final release of 
> version 3.0.1.
> The source code was sponsored to the Apache Software Foundation to get merged 
> to OpenOffice.org which should be done in OpenOffice.org 4 and IBM plans to 
> release a 'Apache OpenOffice IBM Edition' after OpenOffice.org 4 is released

and here http://www.openoffice.org/news/aoo34.html I read

> Future Developments

> Plans for future enhancements by the Project include support for additional 
> native languages, enhanced accessibility, usability and performance 
> improvements, and adopting new features and improvements from the upcoming
> IBM Lotus Symphony contribution. 

So it'll take awhile before there'll be any sources. The package name will be openoffice-4? or aoo-4 or ...?

Is there any chance the additions in the Apache OpenOffice IBM Edition will be open source, too?

If not, this  bug should be changed into a request for openoffice 4 or be closed as wontfix
Comment 5 Marja Van Waes 2012-06-30 23:00:49 CEST
@ Andrew

I can't find that the IBM edition will be Open Source for the part that that version will differ from the Apache version.

Therefore changing this into a request to package Apache Open Office 4.0

The rough target for release is end of 2012

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Feature+Planning

That would be in time to get it in Mageia 3, if someone is available to package it.

Next time please don't file your package request so long before the package is released. ;)

Summary: IBM Lotus Symphony 3.0.1 (Soon to become Apache OpenOffice IBM Edition) => apache open office 4.0 (with source code from IBM Lotus Symphony 3.0.1 )

Comment 6 Andrew 2012-07-12 15:18:58 CEST
The IBM edition will be open source as cited in Question 8 of IBM's "Symphony Apache Future FAQ" -> http://www-03.ibm.com/software/lotus/symphony/buzz.nsf/0/FDC7246494FF2FA38525799A0006B394/$file/Symphony%20Apache%20Future%20FAQ%2002-2012.pdf

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Q8. Will Apache OpenOffice the IBM Edition have a different license and be closed source or proprietary?

A8. Apache OpenOffice the IBM Edition will include the same code and license as the Apache OpenOffice 4.0, which will be downloadable directly from the Apache website. The source code will also be available at no charge. IBM also plans on pre-packaging a set of extensions for the convenience of those clients that desire additional integration with other IBM products

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As for requesting so early, I apologize. At the time of the request, the release date was not known and I erroneously assumed that it would've been available in the near future.
Comment 7 Marja Van Waes 2013-10-30 19:12:24 CET
*** Bug 11565 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

CC: (none) => raoul.behrend

Comment 8 Marja Van Waes 2013-10-30 19:14:53 CET
I've seen Apache Open Office this weekend, and understood the only source code from IBM that was included, was the one for a side bar on the right.
Comment 9 Thierry Vignaud 2013-10-30 20:40:46 CET
which is included in LO 4.1 & 4.2

CC: (none) => thierry.vignaud

Comment 10 Rémi Verschelde 2014-09-16 10:03:39 CEST
Should we close this bug as WONTFIX?

It's already enough work to support one big office suite, and all Linux distros seem to give the priority to LibreOffice. We also have an history with the latter, the LibreOffice vs Apache OpenOffice situation being disturbingly similar to the Mageia vs OpenMandriva one.

Let's put our resources into working on improving the community-based free software office suite :-)

CC: (none) => remi
Target Milestone: Mageia 3 => ---

Comment 11 Sander Lepik 2014-09-16 10:08:09 CEST
I agree.

Status: NEW => RESOLVED
CC: (none) => mageia
Resolution: (none) => WONTFIX


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