as we know .... our distro developers decided to choose oxygen instead of ia-or
theme .... and this is greet .... but when they throw ia-ora they throw it with
all of its stuff ... and this is a big misstake because all ia-ora arn't that
bad ... just like its sound theme ... and the important thing in here is
ia-ora color scheme which is the most important thing that make
mandriva and mageia have a unique look ......
so ... i want to ask a favor from our distro developers
can they forked a color scheme from ia-ora-steel & ia-ora-night
because in this way ...... there is two advantage of this solution
1st / oxygen is much better look with it
2nd / mageia will have a unique look between all distros which using oxygen as a
i already make a fork from ia-ora-steel you can find it here
Feel free to propose patch and join the artwork team :)
New RPM package request =>
(In reply to comment #0)
> 1st / oxygen is much better look with it
That's *your* opinion, not a fact.
Personally I hate all of those blueish-like iaora color schemes and I won't work on that. I think the oxygen color scheme is way better, more professional and I'm grateful that iaora was dropped completely, I always thought it was really ugly. For me, those blueish theme colors make the desktop look like it is for kids and it doesn't look professional.
(In reply to comment #2)
> Personally I hate all of those blueish-like iaora color schemes and I won't
> work on that. I think the oxygen color scheme is way better, more professional
> and I'm grateful that iaora was dropped completely, I always thought it was
> really ugly. For me, those blueish theme colors make the desktop look like it
> is for kids and it doesn't look professional.
and this one .... is not fact
i am here to talking about oxygen not the whole desktop
and what is the kind of professional to make your desktop in grey color ......
when i see it i think that someone take me back from future to 1960 to look to
a black & white tv
(In reply to comment #3)
> and this one .... is not fact
That's why I said *personally*, I was stating *my* own opinion, not a fact.
> i am here to talking about oxygen not the whole desktop
The oxygen color scheme affects the whole desktop.
> and what is the kind of professional to make your desktop in grey color ......
> when i see it i think that someone take me back from future to 1960 to look to
> a black & white tv
As I said, this is a pure personal preference, for me it only remains me of a two year old child bedroom, not a desktop environment you would like to work in.
Anyway, the first step would be for you to post a patch modifying the default oxygen theme if you at least want this feature to be considered. And at the end this a decision of the artwork team, but I vote against it.
aren't we going get rid from the ugly oxygen color scheme
Mr.Max and your team
what do you think
Well, I speak for myself here, and as a representitive of Herr. Thorsten's team :),
I imagine that as the new artwork for mga 2 comes into effect, a colour scheme will be made, so, by all means give us some idea's.
as i said before ia-ora color schemeis more perfect choice for the oxygen style
not that oxygen color scheme
so i sugget to artwork-team to use ia-ora color scheme instead of ugly oxygen
Well, we have chosen a special color platte and as far as I can see, the ia-ora color theme is using very similar color (similar enough).
From my pov, we can use oxygen window decoration and ia-ora color theme. This is also my preferred setting, but it's of course subjective.
((( Well, we have chosen a special color platte )))
if the artwork team has chosen the color scheme before
why didnt they share it with the users
As Thorsten said, this is completely personal and subjective opinion. For me iaora colors are really ugly and should not be used. Current oxygen colors are far better and give the desktop a more professional look, IMO.
For some reason oxygen is the default in KDE and others distros too, like OpenSUSE, Fedora, Kubuntu, and PCLinuxOS. I haven't seen the first product, open source or commercial that uses that blueish color palette and that is for some reason: it doesn't look professional, it looks old and more oriented for children, IMO.
Also there has been a lot of nonconformity from Mandriva users with iaora theme since a long time, see for example this post:
Even on our own forums most of the people manifest not liking it, there's even a poll where the majority wants to see it removed and the minority likes it:
Also IMO, this is a choice that shouldn't be taken by a few but the opinion of users should be taken into consideration. As you saw in the previous link to the poll, the majority of Mageia users DON'T like iaora and prefer oxygen over it.
I hope the art team hasn't made up their mind on this as I think that iaora color theme is a bad choice. The only thing I see good on changing the default color scheme of oxygen is in going for a more personal look that differentiate us from other distros, but choosing the wrong colors can do more harm than good.
not just you have links to support your thought
i do have this thing too ...... look at here
beside ... in our forums there a lot of peoples choose to keep it as alternative
without any dependencies
that mean keep it and all of its stuff including its color scheme
not as you think
IMO ..... oxygen really really ugly .... and it has more more solid and Non alive
look ((if you understand what i mean ))
just like MAC there is no such life in it .... only the ugly look
and not proffessional
Well, for what I can see on that thread, users are proposing other themes and combinations of colors not iaora. Just you are proposing the iaora blue theme, with little backup from other users.
Salim, can you just change the color theme to what you like instead of trying to force everyone to use what you like ? from your comments here and on the thread you posted you are expecting on devs on agreeing with you no matter what as if they don't, they would be hurting users feelings, which clearly is not true.
The default Mageia theme should be something more conservative, as we all know, there are lots of different tastes and is going to be impossible to agree in one theme that is liked by all users. IMO, the default oxygen theme with the default color palette is that conservative theme that can please most of the users, it also looks good and professional, there's a reason why it has been the default KDE theme since many years with improvements in each version and many other versions also use it. If the idea is to bring something different to the desktop that can differentiate us from other distros I think a good wallpaper is more important and achieves that goal much clearly than a color scheme for the desktop.
Any user is able to change the theme to whatever one they like the most after installation, as salim can do it too. We can package more themes to give users more choice if needed, post installation.
I also want to ask the art team to have in mind the opinion of Mageia users, I know that you know what you are doing but it doesn't hurt to know the opinion of whom are going to use what you choose. The poll I found on the forums is the closest thing to knowing the opinion of our users on what they would like to see in the next version, but maybe a more official poll would be a good idea.
Also I think this bug should be closed, is pointless at this time. This discussion should be taken on the forums so we can gather the opinion of other users, not just one trying to impose his way.
((( Salim, can you just change the color theme to what you like instead of trying
to force everyone to use what you like ? )))
i am not forcing anyone here
if you see that i was forcing anyone then how about you
you did here just like what i did
you tried also to force mageia users to use the kde own color scheme
and tried to use the professional look as an excuse for it
while i said lets use mandriva own color scheme but you didnt like it
well .... i used all my time here .... to explain it to the team
and not me or you or anyone for his own opinion will decide the which appearance is
the better choice for mageia
we are just two drops of water in mageia users ocean
and they are whom will decide the future for mageia
(sorry for the noise don't know what happen :/)
I do love the Ia Ora theme colors (especially the yellow version).
Oxygen is beautiful too (when it doesn't crash :-)).
But how can you put "delete forked one and reupload the real one which created by mandriva team" together with "License: Creative Commons by-nc-sa"
You just don't have the right to change the license since you're not the original author.
thanks for reminding me about that
and i changed it to gpl
so ... thank man
This bug was filed against cauldron, but we do not have cauldron at the moment.
Please report whether this bug is still valid for Mageia 2.
so closing as wontfix if I understand correctly
can anyone from cauldron team say any thing about this bug
If you didn' notice, it was closed as WONT FIX, so there's nothing more to say.
oh sorry about that