Advisory proposal needed

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RPMs:
dkms-nvidia470-470.239.06-1.mga9.nonfree.x86_64.rpm
nvidia470-all-470.239.06-1.mga9.nonfree.x86_64.rpm
nvidia470-cuda-opencl-470.239.06-1.mga9.nonfree.x86_64.rpm
nvidia470-devel-470.239.06-1.mga9.nonfree.x86_64.rpm
nvidia470-doc-html-470.239.06-1.mga9.nonfree.x86_64.rpm
nvidia470-lib32-470.239.06-1.mga9.nonfree.x86_64.rpm
nvidia470-utils-470.239.06-1.mga9.nonfree.x86_64.rpm
x11-driver-video-nvidia470-470.239.06-1.mga9.nonfree.x86_64.rpm

from SRPM:
nvidia470-470.239.06-1.mga9.nonfree

mga-64, OK here

kernel: desktop and linus 6.6.18-1

Plasma X11, various desktop apps, incl video
VirtualBox with locally built VB dkms, MSW7 guest
suspend-resume

Forgot HW spec:
GPU: NVIDIA GM107 [GeForce GTX 750]
Mobo: ASRock model: P55 Pro
CPU: Intel i7-870

Thanks for the request.
Assigning to kernel/rivers.

Assignee: bugsquad => kernel

Woops, I forogt to set it to QA.
It was already built since a week or so...

Assignee: kernel => qa-bugs

MGA9-64 Plasma, i5-7500, Nvidia Quadro K620 graphics, rEFInd bootloader.

Started with the nvidia-current 535, used qarepo to get both sets of nvidia packages to be tested, then used drakrpm-update to change to nvidia-current 550. Rebooted into the same kernel with no issues, played a couple of videos, no issues.

Ran drakx11 and changed to the 470 driver, rebooted into the same kernel without issues, played for a while, no issues.

Ran drakx11 again, this time changing to our newfeature driver. Rebooted to the same kernel, again, no issues.

Ran drakz11 again, this time switching to nouveau. Rebooted, and again no issues.

Finished up changing to nvidia-current 550 again, rebooted again, again no issues. Ran glmark2, receiving a score of 5118.

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I have tried to get information on support for nvidia GeForce GTX1080Ti but find that it is not listed under any menus on the nvidia site.  The card works perfectly with the current 550.54.14.  Trying to install the 470 driver threatens to remove the 550 packages which may mean no graphics after rebooting.
The nvidia site agrees that they still support the 1080Ti, without providing any information on which drivers it can use in Linux.

CC: (none) => tarazed25

I have found it easier to check the particular driver for the products it supports. Putting "nvidia 470.239.06 linux" in DuckDuckGo, I get https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/218852/en-us/ (en-us because I set the search engine to favor US English sites.)

From there if I click on the 'Supported Products' tab, I see a long list. The GTX 1080TI is the first one under 'GTX 10 series'.

Thanks for the heads up.  On the nvidia site I don't think I saw GTX, only GT.
Shall try the link given.

Something weird going on here.  Have been chasing it all evening.
Updated the packages via qarepo but could not install them using drakrpm-update.  The list came up empty, which is usually a sign that the earlier version(s) of the package(s) are not installed.  So what is it looking for?  I might add that I have never had these sorts of difficulties before in many years of installing nvidia drivers.

(In reply to Len Lawrence from comment #10)
> Something weird going on here.  Have been chasing it all evening.
> Updated the packages via qarepo but could not install them using
> drakrpm-update.  The list came up empty, which is usually a sign that the
> earlier version(s) of the package(s) are not installed.  So what is it
> looking for?  I might add that I have never had these sorts of difficulties
> before in many years of installing nvidia drivers.

Did you really have previous version of nvidia470? 

rpm -qa|grep nvidia470

If not, the update application not detect the packages

If you have nvidia-current installed, you can only update that. 

To go from nvidia-current to nvidia470, you need to use qarepo to get the packages to test, then use drakx11 to install. To get back to nvidia-current, you have to use drakx11 again.

(In reply to katnatek from comment #11)

That is exactly what I am saying.  470 is a new driver, never been installed before, so how is it going to update?
But, in the past, new drivers were never a problem.
I tried to install the new packages using raw urpmi, which resulted in package conflicts, not unexpected.

And as I said, I have been installing nvidia drivers for over 20 years and never seen these sorts of difficulties but in those days things tended to be sequential, a progression of one driver replacing another; not having to deal with a set of parallel drivers.

I am just wondering if the packaging has changed in some subtle way.  Perhaps not, considering that TJ can run through a series of installations without problem.  Maybe something I have missed?

The system is on 535 just now:
$ inxi -G
 Display: x11 server: X.org v: 1.21.1.8 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 driver: X:
    loaded: nvidia,v4l gpu: nvidia resolution: 2560x1440~60Hz
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 535.154.05 renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080
    Ti/PCIe/SSE2

Just seen your comment TJ.  Now that does look like a new procedure.  That can wait until tomorrow.  Enough for one day.

(In reply to Len Lawrence from comment #13)
> (In reply to katnatek from comment #11)
> 
> That is exactly what I am saying.  470 is a new driver, never been installed
> before, so how is it going to update?
> But, in the past, new drivers were never a problem.
> I tried to install the new packages using raw urpmi, which resulted in
> package conflicts, not unexpected.
> 

I think they decide to keep old drivers just in case new versions drop support for some cards then the new packages are not designed to replace any other, Just guessing, I not see yet the specs

Yes, this card is not supported in fact.  That is why the system always ends up with nouveau.  The clue is in the range quoted "420 - 630" for the 470 in drakx11.

Well.  It is a result.  The 470 driver cannot be forced on a GTX 1080.

(In reply to Len Lawrence from comment #16)
>  The clue is in the range quoted "420 - 630" for the 470 in drakx11.

Strange, it works well with my GTX 750
And it worked on mga8, same card, where 470 was nvidia-current

I used the "635 - 920" option when I tested it. The one just above the recommended "745 series and later" option.

Strange indeed.  From the last two comments one concludes that the series number 470 is not related to the range listed by drakx11, so I shall try the other option at some point.

Yep, that did it.  So the 470 is the latest legacy driver.
Anyway, that works fine on this system with the GTX 1080.
It is a mite slower than the new feature or production drivers, about 60% according to glmark2 (which is not a benchmark).

I would like to know what the numbers mean in drakx11, for instance '635 - 920'.
My assumption for the last n years was that they referred to the nvidia card numbers.

> I would like to know what the numbers mean in drakx11, for instance '635 -
> 920'.
> My assumption for the last n years was that they referred to the nvidia card
> numbers.

I guess it was so initially, but driver compatibility have been extended?
Or we did not update the entry when we have changed what driver versions we really provide, i.e during mga8 we provided 460

Anyway it is confusing. So in drakx11, I use the three top choices in the list where it clearly say which is Latest Legacy, Production (=current), New Feature

(In reply to Len Lawrence from comment #20)
> Yep, that did it.  So the 470 is the latest legacy driver.
> Anyway, that works fine on this system with the GTX 1080.
> It is a mite slower than the new feature or production drivers, about 60%
> according to glmark2 (which is not a benchmark).
> 
> I would like to know what the numbers mean in drakx11, for instance '635 -
> 920'.
> My assumption for the last n years was that they referred to the nvidia card
> numbers.

There is a very little information in /usr/share/ldetect.lst/Cards+ but I don't know how illuminating it would be with regard to your question.

But, since this 470 driver now appears to be working for all, I'm OKing and validating.

Whiteboard: (none) => MGA9-64-OK
Keywords: (none) => validated_update
CC: (none) => sysadmin-bugs

Thanks TJ for comment 22.
This entry does not make it exactly clear:
# duplicate nvidia470 entry for straight configuration (already in GeForce 635 to GeForce 920)
NAME NVIDIA Driver: Latest Legacy (alias of GeForce 635 to 920)
DRIVER modesetting
DRIVER2 nvidia470
DRIVER2_NEEDS_SSE

An update for this issue has been pushed to the Mageia Updates repository.

https://advisories.mageia.org/MGAA-2024-0105.html

Status: NEW => RESOLVED
Resolution: (none) => FIXED