Bug 27645 - Split the classic installation media into specific target installers
Summary: Split the classic installation media into specific target installers
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Mageia
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Installer (show other bugs)
Version: Cauldron
Hardware: All Linux
Priority: Normal enhancement
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Mageia Bug Squad
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Reported: 2020-11-22 09:49 CET by Omer I.S.
Modified: 2020-11-26 16:55 CET (History)
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Description Omer I.S. 2020-11-22 09:49:14 CET
Providing editions for different desktops and for different targets can help with the size of the .iso files. For example, KDE Plasma will include only Plasma desktop in the .iso file, and GNOME edition will include GNOME desktop only, and a server edition will include packages for servers, and the other editions will not.

Please consider to use this idea.
Comment 1 Morgan Leijström 2020-11-22 13:04:43 CET
There is discussion on this now and then.
Problem is to create and test them all.

We do provide live isos separately for KDE Plasma, Gnome, and Xfce - the latter in 32 and 64 bit version.

Fer server, consider the smallest DE, xfce, and install from there.  You would like to install the latest updates anyway so having downloaded a larger server install iso would just be a waste.

If you like a really minimal iso there is the netinstall isos that is only the installer, which pulls whatever you want to install from repositories - local, local cache *) or internet.

*) If you need minimal download per household/corporation, use netinstall and all updating set to get packages through a local cache, see our urpmi-proxy. I did back when i had slow internet connection.

CC: (none) => fri

Comment 2 Omer I.S. 2020-11-23 12:02:31 CET
The idea is to split the installer only, (In reply to Morgan Leijström from comment #1)
> There is discussion on this now and then.
> Problem is to create and test them all.
> 
> We do provide live isos separately for KDE Plasma, Gnome, and Xfce - the
> latter in 32 and 64 bit version.
> 
> Fer server, consider the smallest DE, xfce, and install from there.  You
> would like to install the latest updates anyway so having downloaded a
> larger server install iso would just be a waste.
> 
> If you like a really minimal iso there is the netinstall isos that is only
> the installer, which pulls whatever you want to install from repositories -
> local, local cache *) or internet.
> 
> *) If you need minimal download per household/corporation, use netinstall
> and all updating set to get packages through a local cache, see our
> urpmi-proxy. I did back when i had slow internet connection.

The idea is to split the installer into editions only, because the classic installer contains packages the home users do not need, and to provide the installer in less size.

Summary: Provide editions in less size => Split the classic installer into editions in less file sizes
CC: (none) => omeritzicschwartz

Omer I.S. 2020-11-23 18:38:40 CET

Summary: Split the classic installer into editions in less file sizes => Split the classic installation into specific targets installers

Comment 3 Morgan Leijström 2020-11-23 19:41:13 CET
I dont really see a big use case

If for server, you probably have good and reliable internet connection, so why not use netinstall iso?

And on the other end of the scale:

If you want to be able to install anything put netinstall iso on a big USB stick, and manually create a partition and load our full repository.  Which you can later update using rsync.

There are also methods to spin your own - may be good for organisation.  There are also methods to automate install via script.

Summary: Split the classic installation into specific targets installers => Split the classic installation media into specific target installers

Comment 4 Aurelien Oudelet 2020-11-26 16:47:46 CET
Already discussed.
We provide:
 - x86_64 and i586 Classic ISO, with a Installer.
Heavy but can provide an offline intallation.

 - x86_64 Live ISO for testing with Plasma, GNOME and XFCE desktop.

 - i586 Live ISO for testing with XFCE desktop.

 - a Netinstall ISO, free and nonfree flavors.
This is a best tool to install from scratch packages you want.

Note that Live ISO can be installed and online updates will provide latest packages.

As far as our resources are rare, we can't do more.

Resolution: (none) => WONTFIX
Status: NEW => RESOLVED
CC: (none) => ouaurelien

Morgan Leijström 2020-11-26 16:55:43 CET

See Also: (none) => https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27660


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