I tried to test mageia 8 alpha 1 32 bit. The installation was not possible. The process was canceled when the files were loaded into memory. The last working version is mageia 6. I have the following hardware: CPU Pentium 4 2.8 GHz DVD RW Graphics Geforce FX 5200 with 128 MB 2,046 GB RAM What is the 32 bit version for now? Best regards
Hello, What ISO have you tested? Have you used it with a DVD or a DVDRW or a USB Key? It seems that your system boots but stop. What the exact message? Lastly, seems you have a Nvidia Graphic Card. Sometimes, kernel modesetting drivers prevents system with these cards to correctly boot. I propose to boot with "nomodeset" option to kernel from GRUB menu. To do : 1. Boot from your ISO (DVD or USB Key) 2. Press "e" key on your keyboard while ISO's Grub appears. 3. Use the down arrow key to move the cursor to the line beginning with the word "linux", then press the END key to move the cursor to the end of that line, in the red circle. Normally this will be just after the word "quiet". 4. Press SPACE to add a blank space (after "quiet") then carefully type "nomodeset", without commas. 5. Then press Ctrl x or F10 to boot with the new list of kernel parameters. See https://wiki.mageia.org/en/How_to_set_up_kernel_options#With_Grub_2_boot_Loader page, available in English, Deutsch and Français.
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@Otto Sorry you are having trouble. Aurelien is right: you do not give enough information. Please say: - What ISO you are using (32-bit Classic, or 32-bit Xfce LIVE). - Whether you tried from USB or DVD. - If from USB, how did you dump the ISO to it. - Please give a more detailed description of what happens from the moment you boot the installation ISO: -- Do you see the Grub2 boot menu -> Install Mageia 8 ? -- Do you see the initial character screen "Loading program into memory"? -- What next? It would normally be the first graphical installation screen to choose the language. Do you see that? - Try what Aurelien describes. @Aurelien Thank you for your helpful & expert comment.
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I use the ISO 32 bit classic from DVD. I wanted to test mageia 8 32 bit alpha 1. I see Install Mageia 8 on the screen and then load it into memory. Then the installation is canceled with a few lines. Nothing happens anymore. These are the last lines: file:///home/otto/Schreibtisch/IMG_20200725_153231.pdf The procedure as described on aureils does not work. Best regards
Hi there, the pdf file you tried to add in comment 3 is not visible as it not the good procedure. Could you please use "Add an attachment" link above just before comments start and join it? Regards,
(In reply to Otto Rothbauer from comment #0) > I tried to test mageia 8 alpha 1 32 bit. > The installation was not possible. The process was canceled when the files > were loaded into memory. As a test: Have you tried the live xfce 32 bit? It is supposed to be the most compatible. > The last working version is mageia 6. Did you also try Mageia 7 and it failed? > I have the following hardware: CPU Pentium 4 2.8 GHz > DVD RW > Graphics Geforce FX 5200 with 128 MB > 2,046 GB RAM > What is the 32 bit version for now? I dont understand that question, could you rephrase?
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This is the file: https://www.bilder-upload.eu/bild-e4a405-1595776911.jpg.html Mageia 32 bit does not work on appropriate hardware. This means that no test is possible. Best regards
Created attachment 11771 [details] Screenshot showing point of boot failure Thank you for the photo screenshot. (You could have attached it directly to the bug - which I am doing). This shows the installer booting as far as it gets - not very far. The output shown to date looks normal It is taken from the URL given above, to keep it with the bug. @Otto Are you able to try, as Morgan suggested, the '32-bit Xfce Live ISO' (which is a smaller download))? It would be a quick test of whether Mageia can run on your hardware.
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Hello, I tried installing the Mageia 8 alpha xfce 32 bit The result is modest. The computer stops without installation. I then received the following messages: https://www.bilder-upload.eu/bild-b29f88-1595942730.jpg.html I don't think the 32 bit version is suitable for 32 bit computers.
It runs on most 32bit computers, and if we sort this out it will run on more :) Have you tried to just boot the '32-bit Xfce Live ISO' without installing?
Summary: mageia test 8 failed => Mageia 8 32bit boot failure
tried to start the live version. However, this is impossible.
Thank you for this test :) This is not my cup of tea so i have pinged for help on QA mail list. Me or someone else will get back here. Meanwhile, can you give more info on that CPU? - P4 came in versions supporting different instructions. So i think someone will ask you about that sooner or later.
Here is a part of earlier discussion but the OP never came back with more info. So you are not alone, and we would like to track this down. https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/qa-discuss/2020-07/msg00158.html
I tried the 32 CI on my AMD 2400XP -32bit only cpu. after the "loading into memory" reached 100%, the screen goes blank for up to 5 minutes. then it presents the language select screen. Does the OP machine reboot/shutdown or just wait? if it just waits, try the following: (from https://pad.riseup.net/p/mageia8-known_bugs ) 2. If the install doesn't complete, but doesn't completely hang the machine, switch to the debug console using Ctrl-Alt-F2, insert a formatted USB stick in a spare socket, and enter the command "bug". That will write a report.bug file to the USB stick. The file will be quite large, so compress it before attaching to a bug report. If you can't use a USB stick, it is possible to write the report file to a formatted partition on any disk in the system, e.g. if you have a formatted partition that appears as /dev/sda6, then "bug /dev/sda6" will write the file there. you can then retrieve the file and attach it here, you may have to use a Mga6 Live to do so
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(In reply to Otto Rothbauer from comment #0) > I tried to test mageia 8 alpha 1 32 bit. > The installation was not possible. The process was canceled when the files > were loaded into memory. The last working version is mageia 6. > I have the following hardware: CPU Pentium 4 2.8 GHz > DVD RW > Graphics Geforce FX 5200 with 128 MB > 2,046 GB RAM I have a Dell Inspiron 5100 with a 2.8GHz. P4 and 2GB of RAM, but it has Radeon 7500 (aka RV200) graphics and the optical drive is non-working. I had little if any trouble running either of the 32-bit isos on this machine. Of course, with a broken drive I was unable to test running from DVD, but my laptop's BIOS does allow the option to boot from usb. If your BIOS has that option, I HIGHLY recommend it. It's MUCH faster, and I've found it to be more reliable than optical media. So Mageia 8 DOES run on 32-bit, as does Mageia 7. (I have a Mageia 7 install on another partition of the same hardware.) Mine will not run Plasma because of the graphics hardware, but it's OK with Xfce. Yours should be, too. Unfortunately, we don't have any 32-bit testers with Geforce FX 5200 graphics. So, the only way we have to sort this out is to ask you to help us. So I'm going to ask you to try booting from the Live DVD once more, but into "live" mode rather than "install." Do not choose the boot option using the nonfree proprietary drivers, as there aren't any current ones for your graphics card. Nvidia stopped supporting that card some time ago. "Live" mode will be using the nouveau graphics driver.
Following TJ's request in comment 14 above, if the boot fails and drops you into the dracut debug shell, as shown in your screenshot in comment 8, then please: 1. Insert a formatted USB stick into a USB socket (FAT formatted will do). 2. You should see some messages on the console notifying you the OS has detected it and given it a device name. For example, I get [various messages] sdb: sdb1 sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk showing that I have inserted a USB stick that has been given the device name sdb and that it has a single partition which has been given the device name sdb1. 3. Mount the partition and copy the rdsosreport.txt file onto it, using the following commands (using the partition device name you see instead of sdb1): mkdir /mnt mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt cp /run/initramfs/rdsosreport.txt /mnt umount /mnt 4. Attach the rdsosreport.txt file to this bug report (please use the "Add an attachment" option here rather than using a third-party site). If you don't have a working USB port or a spare USB stick, you can use any formatted partition on your hard disk instead. The "blkid" command will list the available disk and partition device names.
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Created attachment 11775 [details] Screenshot of Xfce Live install failure from comment 8 This attachment is to include with the bug the screenshot from comment 8. (In reply to Otto Rothbauer from comment #8) > I don't think the 32 bit version is suitable for 32 bit computers. This is nonsense. If Mageia offers 32-bit versions, you can be sure it has been tested on such hardware; testified by comments in this bug. Real 32-bit systems are increasingly rare, and it may well be that Mageia does not run on your particular hardware. This would be sad, and oblige you to try another distribution. I have an obscure 32-bit netbook on which I have not succeeded in installing any Linux to a usable state. For the moment, you are being helped by several expert Mageia people. If you do not understand the specific advice they are giving you, please say so. We have to expect a certain level of user competence in difficult situations like yours. If the suggestions being offered are not possible for you, please say so.
Hello, I tried to install Mageia 8 from the live CD. I also wanted to insert the error as described. The version of Pentium 4 is not specified. Nothing was possible. I don't have access to the keyboard during installation. I don't think the processor is packing the software. Best regards
Please try adding each of these options to the boot command line, both individually and in combination: acpi=off noapic nolapic Do they make any difference? What is the make and model of your computer/motherboard? Does your computer work with any recent Linux distribution?
unfortunately I have no possibility to enter anything here. It is a Fujitsu Siemens computer, Product: Scenic P300, 818661 Model: M 12 W - 01761 Serial number: YBCL044076 The computer does not run with the newer operating system. Best regards
(In reply to Otto Rothbauer from comment #19) > unfortunately I have no possibility to enter anything here. It would really help if you could give more detail in your answers. Are you saying that the boot menu does not respond to any key presses?
Hello, there is no start menu in which I could enter something. Best regards
In comment 3 you say you see "Install Mageia" on the screen. What is that, if not the boot menu?
Hello, this so-called boot menu is only visible for a few seconds. Entry via the keyboard is impossible here. Best regards
GRUB uses BIOS calls to read the keyboard, so that suggests a problem with the BIOS. How is your keyboard connected - via USB or via an old-style keyboard connector? Does the keyboard work if you go into the BIOS setup menu?
Hello, of course I can access the BIOS. I can make entries here I can't do that on the computer. Grub is not installed because there is no operating system. The keyboard is connected via USB. Best regards
> of course I can access the BIOS. I can make entries here > I can't do that on the computer. There is no "of course" about it. Old BIOSs did not recognise USB keyboards. > Grub is not installed because there is no operating system. Both the Classical Installer and Live ISOs use GRUB 2 as their bootloader. The first screen you see, where it offers you the choice to install Mageia or run the memory test, is a GRUB menu. GRUB is working well enough to display that menu (you haven't told us there is anything wrong with that) and to load and boot the Linux kernel (demonstrated by your screenshots). If it can make the BIOS calls to do that, I can think of no reason why it can't make the BIOS calls to read the keyboard. You said Mageia 6 works. Are you using the GRUB 2 bootloader for that? If so, does the keyboard work in that GRUB menu?
Hello, Thanks for your help. Should I now install Mageia 6 to start Grub? Unfortunately I can no longer fully follow them. Could you explain that? Best regards
When you said the last working version was Mageia 6, I assumed that meant you had it installed on this machine. What OS do you have installed and working? What bootloader does it use. If it's not Mageia 6 then you could try a test install using the Mageia-6-i586-DVD.iso. Make sure the selected bootloader is "GRUB2 with graphical menu" (which should be the default). When you reboot, you should get a bootloader menu that looks like this: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/How_to_set_up_kernel_options#With_Grub_2_boot_Loader_2 Does the keyboard work there?
Hello, No operating system is installed on this computer. I have Mageia 6 on another computer. It has a similar hardware configuration. Everything works there. Installation of Mageia 8 is unfortunately not possible. You need a faster computer with 32 bir. Unfortunately I don't know what the minimum requirements are. Best regards
@ Qtto, no installed system is required for the requested test in #26: (Martin Whitaker from comment #26) > Both the Classical Installer and Live ISOs use GRUB 2 as their bootloader. > The first screen you see, where it offers you the choice to install Mageia > or run the memory test, is a GRUB menu. Please try to use instructions in the given link in c26 and test adding the parameters suggested by Martin in Comment 18, when booting i.e Mageia 8 xfce 32 bit Live. If test succeed Mageia 8 can be installed and later run, if same parameters are working then, and can be made permanent :)
Hello, unfortunately the test was negative. 32 bit does not work here. Best regards
(In reply to Otto Rothbauer from comment #29) > You need a faster computer with 32 bir. What evidence do you have for that? Ben's Athlon 2400XP mentioned in comment 13 is a 2GHz processor. > Unfortunately I don't know what the minimum requirements are. They are listed here: https://www.mageia.org/en/support/ The 32-bit software is compiled for i586 (original Pentium). Some applications now require SSE2 support, but the core software doesn't. (In reply to Otto Rothbauer from comment #31) > unfortunately the test was negative. > 32 bit does not work here. Was that the test of Mageia 6 as suggested in comment 28? If so, I think your machine is faulty, as you say it works on similar hardware.
Hello, I no longer installed mageia 6 on the computer, as this is an oldi. I run Mageia 6 on a laptop with a Pentiuim M. I was even able to update to Mageia 7 on the laptop. This went up to a kernel update. From then on I received the message Kernel panic. There is no operating system on the Pentium 4. Mageia 8 could not be installed. Best regards
Otto This bug has become confused by mentions of different computers with different versions of Mageia working or not. In the original comment 0: > I have the following hardware: > CPU Pentium 4 2.8 GHz > DVD RW [Used for booting the ISOs] > Graphics Geforce FX 5200 with 128 MB > 2,046 GB RAM From comment 19: > It is a Fujitsu Siemens computer, > Product: Scenic P300, 818661 > Model: M 12 W - 01761 From comment 33: > I run Mageia 6 on a laptop with a Pentiuim M. > There is no operating system on the Pentium 4. Mageia 8 could not be > installed. Very competent people have tried to help you, but you are not being sufficiently clear about describing exactly what you do and what happens up to the point of failure(s). It is curious that you seem to have several computers which do not run M7/M8, but which did run M6. We are certainly keen to establish what is going wrong, but need much more organised feedback (not comments about Mageia 7/8 not working on 32-bit). You could re-start with a list of the various computers you talk about, and their related Mageia status from 6-7-8. (In reply to Otto Rothbauer from comment #33) > I was even able to update to Mageia 7 on the laptop. This went up to a > kernel update. From then on I received the message Kernel panic. That should have been a separate bug report at the time.
Hello, Thanks for the answer. In summary, I report that I cannot install Mageia 8 on the Pentium 4. I have already given the relevant information. The installation is canceled. A note shows that it is the processor. I would have to live with it. Best regards
(In reply to Otto Rothbauer from comment #35) > Hello, > > Thanks for the answer. > In summary, I report that I cannot install Mageia 8 on the Pentium 4. And also Mageia 7.1 installer/live fail on that P4 machine, is that correct? > I have already given the relevant information. It is not clear to us what parameters suggested in comment 18 you have tried to manually add when booting the installer or live. (after pressing e when you see the menu of grub (note: not an installed grub, but the one booted from the iso!) > The installation is canceled. A note shows that it is the processor. > I would have to live with it. This is your chance to help us and other users to get Mageia working for them :) None of us in Mageia crew have such unwilling machine at hand ourselves.
(In reply to Morgan Leijström from comment #36) > It is not clear to us what parameters suggested in comment 18 you have tried > to manually add when booting the installer or live. (after pressing e when > you see the menu of grub (note: not an installed grub, but the one booted > from the iso!) From comment 25, I understand the keyboard doesn't work in the boot menu. (In reply to Otto Rothbauer from comment #35) > The installation is canceled. A note shows that it is the processor. Nothing you have reported suggests to me that the processor is at fault. It looks like a motherboard or BIOS problem. You have told us that no other Linux distribution works on that P4 machine, so it might just be broken hardware. This link indicates Linux Mint 19.3 should work on your machine: https://www.tutti.ch/de/vi/bern/computer-zubehoer/computer/linux-desktop-pc-fujitsu-siemens-scenic-p300-mit-linux-mint/38325159 Try installing Mint 19.3, and let us know if that works.
Hello, i tried to install linux mint 19.3. Unfortunately the success is negative. I got the message Bios Bug 8254. Timer not connected to IO -APIC. Best regards
OK, this looks like a good moment to close this bug. It is going round in circles, and the previous comment shows it is not just Mageia. Martin & Morgan - thanks to both - have invested a lot of effort to sort it; stoney ground. You can re-open it, Otto, if you have something new & useful to tell us.
Status: NEW => RESOLVEDResolution: (none) => WORKSFORME
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