That is funny, the MS fonts are available in Mageia 1.

I'm using a non English system now, so I don't know exactly how everything is called in English, but this is how to get them in Mageia 1:

Go to MCC, choose System, choose the double T (you can already read something like "import Windows fonts" there) and press the button near the bottom in the middle, it says something like "get Windows fonts".
For me, in X86_64, that works, I get Arial etc.

This should work in Cauldron too, but when I try on my i586 Cauldron system, the Windows fonts can't be found

I'll look into it again later, to see if I can find some more information

Anyway, this isn't a package request anymore but a plain bug

CC: (none) => m.van.waes
Component: New RPM package request => RPM Packages
Summary: Include the package msttcorefonts (that contains Microsoft fonts) in the mageia repository => MS fonts can't be imported in MCC
Severity: enhancement => normal

I'm replacing msttcorefonts in the RPM package field by drakxtools-13.63-1mga2.i586.rpm, because that contains drakfont (that should enable importing MS fonts). 

I guess Gianluca didn't know MS fonts can be imported in MCC or by typing "drakfont" in the konsole. So it appears I'm the only one reporting this bug and it hasn't been reproduced yet.

Source RPM: msttcorefonts => drakxtools-13.63-1mga2.i586.rpm

This bug was a package request for msttcorefonts. Some people didn't have a Windows installation. 

I think that if the package (Gianluca, Marcello, can you give us the link to the tar of msttcorefonts) is ok with the policy we can import it.

Grinz....I didn't know those fonts were imported from ones' own system

Are there no legal issues?

(In reply to comment #4)

> 
> Are there no legal issues?

Not when the fonts are downloaded from here: http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/, but that isn't a package yet, it provides the fonts and explains how to make the package

URL: (none) => http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/
Component: RPM Packages => New RPM package request
Source RPM: drakxtools-13.63-1mga2.i586.rpm => msttcorefonts-2.0-1.noarch.rpm

@ Gianluca: if you know of a better way, please replace my link by yours

No, i don't know a better way, I'm sorry. I was thinking that (beacuse i have not a windows installation on my laptop and I never used a Mandriva/Mageia before) this this package was present in all the distribution. But now i know that isn't true.
If there aren't legal issues in making the package, like explained in the link on sourceforge, can it be done?  And can it  be also integrated into one of the repositories of Mageia?

Thank you
Gianluca

If someone make this package yes sure ;)

Version: Cauldron => 1

Just to clarify, the intention of drakfont is to import Windows fonts to which you already have access.  The only difference between "import Windows Fonts" and simply importing a set of Microsoft fonts is that drakfont will look around for Windows partitions and locate the fonts directory for you.

You can still get Windows fonts if you don't have a Windows partition on your machine.  Go to some other Windows system (preferably one with a version of Office installed), and search out and collect all of the *.ttf or *.TTF files you can find using the Search tool.  Copy them to some directory accessible to your Mageia system, and then use vanilla drakfont "import" to import all of them.

As long as you have done the collecting of the font files, you've essentially done what drakfont would have done for "import Windows Fonts".  The rest is just a standard import.

Note that while this works from a technical perspective, its legality is questionable depending on whether you own the copy of Windows you raid for the fonts.

CC: (none) => ftg

Yes it can be done. But not all the people, particularly non-programmers, are skilled to do this. Or more simply they don't want to do.

So I think that if Mageia and more generally all distributions want to be accessible to the masses, all these (simple) packages must be at least simply available into the repositories, if not directly installed.

Just my opinion, obviously.

Gianluca

I'm not suggesting that you NOT make an RPM which contains the .exe files and extracts the font files.  However, there will be some problems...

1) I asked years ago, and was told (by blino, IIRC), that there is no simple way to run drakfont in a non-interactive way.  You'd have to read the code to determine what actually gets called to import fonts, and mimic that.  Extracting the fonts from the .exe files is only half the job; you still have to import them.

2) These fonts are a snapshot of fonts available at some point in the past.  It may be that newer versions have appeared since, and it's almost certain that newer fonts have appeared in newer versions of Windows and Office.  Anyone who uses the proposed RPM may end up with considerably less than they are expecting, and less than they would get by using drakfont directly to access a current Windows system.

Setting version to cauldron, because package requests will usually be done for cauldron first and then be available in next stable release

Version: 1 => Cauldron

Not in Mdv

See bug 1182 for people who also own a copy of windows.

I don't see how Mageia can package copyrighted fonts,
even if they have at some point in time been publicly
downloadable from m$.

I think this bug should be closed as invalid.

CC: (none) => davidwhodgins

>I think this bug should be closed as invalid.

why ?

in debian there is:
ttf-mscorefonts-installer - Installer for Microsoft TrueType core font
http://packages.debian.org/fr/squeeze/ttf-mscorefonts-installer

(In reply to comment #15)
> >I think this bug should be closed as invalid.
> 
> why ?
> 
> in debian there is:
> ttf-mscorefonts-installer - Installer for Microsoft TrueType core font
> http://packages.debian.org/fr/squeeze/ttf-mscorefonts-installer

Sorry, I thought this was about providing a package that contained
the fonts, which are copyrighted.

As it's about providing a package to install the fonts that the
user will be downloading from the web, it then becomes a more
borderline question, about whether or not Mageia would be encouraging
copyright infringement.

I've looked at the installer, and the wording of the notice given
to the user.

As the installer is downloading files that Microsoft previously made
publicly available from third party cache/mirror sites, I think it
is ok, and should go ahead.  I'm not a lawyer though, so my opinion
on that is worth what you're paying for it. :-)

Today, this package msttcorefonts-2.0-1.noarch.rpm is not in mageia repositeries.
If it is not free, can you add it in the tainted mageia repositeries.
It will help the mageia users with theirs mageia system.

CC: (none) => yleny

Assigning this package request to all packagers collectively. On a voluntary basis, one of them might want to integrate it to the distribution and maintain it for bug and security fixes.

You might also want to join the packager team to maintain this piece of software: see https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager

Assignee: bugsquad => pkg-bugs