Bug 20934 - Install annoyance - "Germany" does not show up in first list of countries (have to click for more)
Summary: Install annoyance - "Germany" does not show up in first list of countries (ha...
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Mageia
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Installer (show other bugs)
Version: Cauldron
Hardware: All Linux
Priority: Normal normal
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Assignee: Mageia tools maintainers
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Reported: 2017-05-25 12:52 CEST by Robert Fox
Modified: 2023-06-05 16:52 CEST (History)
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Description Robert Fox 2017-05-25 12:52:17 CEST
Description of problem:
During installation of Mageia 6 RC (and Cauldron) - I choose to languages (English and German) - and choose German keyboard.  At the last step - review page, the defaulted country is USA - so I want to change to Germany - when I click to change country - a window pops up and Germany is not on the list!! 
I then have to click on "show all" in order to find Germany

This is annoying but not a showstopper

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How reproducible:
Exerytime

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install 6 RC using DVD
2. Wait until end of install and change country from USA to Germany
3. Germany not listed on initial list
Rémi Verschelde 2017-05-25 18:03:37 CEST

Assignee: bugsquad => mageiatools

Comment 1 Robert Fox 2018-11-19 10:55:59 CET
This bug still applies in latest Cauldron
Comment 2 Barry Jackson 2018-11-19 12:09:36 CET
Well you do find Germany eventually, I never see England in any of these country lists.

After looking for England, then Great Britain, I scroll almost to the bottom and sometimes find United Kingdom, unless it's been moved to the very top below USA for "convenience" - sigh! :)

As you say - not a show stopper but annoying all the same.

CC: (none) => zen25000

Comment 3 Robert Fox 2020-08-20 08:58:25 CEST
Issue still exists in Mageia 8 Beta 1
Comment 4 Robert Fox 2023-06-05 14:00:13 CEST
Still exists Mageia 9 Beta 2 install
Comment 5 sturmvogel 2023-06-05 16:06:54 CEST
Why should German be at the top of the list? Who decides which language is "important" and which is "subordinate"?
What's the problem with doing 2 mouse clicks every few years (when reinstalling the system)?

This is clearly not a bug and the discussion about which language is "up" or "down" shouldn't even be started.

Closing.

Resolution: (none) => WONTFIX
Status: NEW => RESOLVED

Comment 6 Robert Fox 2023-06-05 16:11:20 CEST
Wasn't asking for it to be at the top of the list - bur all other distros have commonly used languages / countries in their primary lists - like France, Spain & Germany.  Newbies might be confused when installing - that's all. I'll go back to my cave now . . . .
Comment 7 Pascal Terjan 2023-06-05 16:49:59 CEST
We should definitely try to improve this, the list is sorted by continent so first is Americas and all of Europe needs to scroll. Selecting English on the first screen gives English from USA, English from England being further down in Europe.

Having most common countries would be a solution, or having some default selection based on "something" could also help. There was another bug suggesting to pick the default language based on some BIOS information for example (I am not sure it is often set).

CC: (none) => pterjan

Comment 8 Robert Fox 2023-06-05 16:52:28 CEST
I suggest we look at other distros like LinuxMint or Ubuntu - how their installers handle this topic - Mageia was always the odd man out in this department (kinda like the sudo out-of-the-box topic as well)

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