Description of problem:
When doing a classic install from the DVD, dnf and dnf-plugins-core are not installed by default along with urpmi.
Please ensure that dnf and dnf-plugins-core are installed by default, so that users can use either dnf or urpmi right out of the gate with installs and upgrades.
Can we have this fixed in time for the RC release?
guess you add it in rpmsrate CAT_SYSTEM
Done. We just need new ISOs to confirm it worked.
Tested with a netinstall, this is fixed there. So now, the next time the classic DVD ISOs are spun, this change should be picked up.
Installing dnf enables a system service that creates a ~140MB cache in /var/cache. Do we really want this installed by default on every system? I expect the majority of users will continue to use MCC/rpmdrake for package management, so for them, this is unnecessary bloat.
The service can be disabled by default via a systemd preset or some other mechanism. Don't we have a global systemd preset for controlling these things?
Example from Fedora:
(In reply to Neal Gompa from comment #6)
> The service can be disabled by default via a systemd preset or some other
> mechanism. Don't we have a global systemd preset for controlling these
> Example from Fedora:
That seems very poor design. IMO, this should be handled in the package that provides the service.
Presets can be shipped in either the package that provides the service or globally. Distro policy can be overridden by individual packages.
If you really wanted this disabled by default, all you had to do was ask.
I personally think it's good to have the cache, but if you really think it should be switched off by default, I can ship a preset file that does that.
Incidentally, the advantage of global presets is that they only need to tweaked in one place, rather than having to change every package that has a preset.
Anyway, if you *really* think it should be disabled, file a separate bug for it, and I'll do so...
(In reply to Neal Gompa from comment #8)
> If you really wanted this disabled by default, all you had to do was ask.
See comment 5.
> I personally think it's good to have the cache, but if you really think it
> should be switched off by default, I can ship a preset file that does that.
Yes, if you are using dnf, I'm sure it is good to have the cache. But consider all the users who aren't using dnf, and have no need or wish to use dnf.
(In reply to Neal Gompa from comment #9)
> Anyway, if you *really* think it should be disabled, file a separate bug for
> it, and I'll do so...
Why should this need another bug report?
If you want dnf to be installed by default, I suggest the best behaviour would be to only enable the cache when dnf is first used.
I've just submitted dnf-2.5.0-2.mga6, which will address this issue. From now on, makecache will not get invoked until the first complete run of DNF, which generates the necessary cache data.
Because of this change, I want you to remove the change you made in draklive-config that permanently disables dnf-makecache.