Bug 15899 - Add some Gnone Tweak Tool options in the Gnome Control Center
Summary: Add some Gnone Tweak Tool options in the Gnome Control Center
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Mageia
Classification: Unclassified
Component: RPM Packages (show other bugs)
Version: Cauldron
Hardware: All Linux
Priority: Normal enhancement
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Mageia Bug Squad
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Reported: 2015-05-10 06:53 CEST by William Moreno
Modified: 2015-06-23 23:07 CEST (History)
2 users (show)

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Source RPM: gnome-control-center
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Description William Moreno 2015-05-10 06:53:35 CEST
Hi

This is just and idea proposed in the Gnome Bugzilla about add the Gnome Tweak Tool options (or some of these) in the gnome-control-center.

Looks like there is real interest in the commonity of user for this feature:

Please can see:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=749172
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1220007
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=930333

If could be nice is any Gnome user in Open Suse than support this idea to give a +1

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Comment 1 Florian Hubold 2015-05-10 11:33:05 CEST
As indicated in the OpenSuSe bugreport, they already have a patch to expose various other tools in gnome-control-center:

https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/openSUSE:Factory/gnome-control-center/gnome-control-center-allow-extra-tools-in-shell.patch?expand=1

Seems like a good way to handle this.


@Olav: Any objections?

CC: (none) => doktor5000
Hardware: i586 => All
Assignee: bugsquad => olav
Severity: normal => enhancement

Comment 2 William Moreno 2015-05-10 15:52:32 CEST
Gnome bug was closed, so path the g-t-t could be the way to do this, to bad for Gnome developers, look like they do not listen than user wants :-/
Comment 3 Olav Vitters 2015-05-19 21:55:44 CEST
Arbitrarily moving things between two tools that are installed by default. I'm not following. Further, I don't like that you complain about my attitude while we've never met. The bugs which you quote have all been opened by you.

Adding patches to Mageia just because you've say I don't listen. It'll make the maintenance forever more difficult, to someone who started with complaining about me.

Florian: My objection is that it complicates things while I don't see the benefit. The blog suggests as alternative that gnome-tweak-tool should be installed by default. This is already the case in Mageia.

As pretty much the same bugreport was opened in 3 different distributions, I don't think William really did any investigation into Mageia.

William: It's really poor form to complain about me (amongst many things a GNOME contributor) in the same comment as where you're asking to to something for you. I'm not your bitch. Mageia/we install gnome-tweak-tool by default. Exactly what was suggested and what I thought when I read that feedback (Fedora should do the same).

Complaing about me. Wtf. Really, wtf.
Comment 4 Olav Vitters 2015-05-19 21:56:04 CEST
And yeah, this is a WORKSFORME.

Status: NEW => RESOLVED
Resolution: (none) => WORKSFORME

Comment 5 Florian Hubold 2015-05-22 00:13:59 CEST
Sorry, I do not agree, neither with your approach to this report nor with the attitude shown to the reporter.

For one, nothing should be moved between the two tools. The gnome-tweak-tool settings should be shown in control center, this is what this report is about and that's what SUSE already does. Patch is linked, I don't see where this adds any maintenance complexity.
The benefit is users obtain access to frequently required settings which control center does not expose by default, and most users do not know about gnome-tweak-tool.

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For the second, where did William complain about you in particular? I've re-read the upstream bugreport and the two others, and to be honest I can't comprehend the approach by upstream to draw a line on behalf of the users (because I don't follow on the GNOME concept "protect the user from too much choice and from settings that the developers do not consider necessary for end users - whereas end-users request those settings as they required them).
Where did you say you're his bitch?

What is your problem, why are you so upset from a pretty honest enhancement request? And yes, I can can comprehend with comment 2 as I do _not_ understand this. A user kindly asks for something, and the developers tell him that he does not need this and decide on his behalf.

WTF, exactly.

Status: RESOLVED => REOPENED
Resolution: WORKSFORME => (none)

Comment 6 Olav Vitters 2015-06-23 20:15:51 CEST
(In reply to Florian Hubold from comment #5)
> Sorry, I do not agree, neither with your approach to this report nor with
> the attitude shown to the reporter.

Yet you leave it assigned to me

> For the second, where did William complain about you in particular?

"to bad for Gnome developers, look like they do not listen than user wants"


Either reopen and assign to yourself or leave it closed. I find it pretty arrogant to reopen even though it is assigned to me. I'm reassigning to you. Note that I didn't see you providing updates for gnome-control-center though. I've committed 83 and I'm second guessed?

Please change maintdb.

Status: REOPENED => ASSIGNED
Assignee: olav => doktor5000

Comment 7 Marja Van Waes 2015-06-23 21:46:55 CEST
@ Olav

I'm sure we all got the message.

It would have been better if we had remembered the following:


This is an enhancement request, and, according to

https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_policy#Enhancement_requests:

The maintainer is not obliged to accept any enhancement request. These do not constitute 'bugs' under the definition above and consequently it is not our policy that they will be resolved in all cases. The maintainer may choose whether or not to accept the request. ...........If the maintainer chooses not to accept the request, they should add a comment explaining their decision, and set the bug's status to the RESOLVED WONTFIX status. Either of these outcomes constitutes resolution of the issue. 

Closing again.

Status: ASSIGNED => RESOLVED
CC: (none) => marja11
Resolution: (none) => WONTFIX
Assignee: doktor5000 => bugsquad

Comment 8 Florian Hubold 2015-06-23 23:07:41 CEST
Yep, and IMHO William is right, you did not listen. In my book telling facts is not complaining. If you can't take it, so be it. It's just sad.

In reply to Olav Vitters from comment #6)
> I'm reassigning to you.
> Note that I didn't see you providing updates for gnome-control-center
> though. I've committed 83 and I'm second guessed?
> 
> Please change maintdb.

Pffft. Just do a reality check, your recent g+ post shows you can do it. Doing xx version bumps by script is not what others would call maintenance, you admitted yourself you don't like fixing bugs or stabilising. You ignore a user with a valid proposal and a patch that is already existent and maintained elsewhere. Then you call me arrogant?

Whatever, that's just the way it is probably ...

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