Description of problem: There is a new Wiki Documentation Main page and the links in MageiaWelcome should be updated https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): mageiawelcome-0.8.8-1.mga4.src.rpm Reproducible: Steps to Reproduce:
What about: * Letting the "Documentation" link direct to the same http://www.mageia.org/en/doc/ page as before, but changing the name of the button to "Official Documentation" * Adding an extra link in the "DOCUMENTATION" list, called "Documentation Overview" and linking it to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation * Anything else? André, Daniel, Yves, Carolyn and others: WDYT?
CC: (none) => doc-bugs, marja11
What about simply pointing "Newcomers Howto" to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation ? and keep "Documentation" pointing to official doc (http://www.mageia.irg/en/doc/) This way, we have no new string to translate. WDYT?
(In reply to Daniel Napora from comment #2) > What about simply pointing "Newcomers Howto" to > https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation ? > > and keep "Documentation" pointing to official doc > (http://www.mageia.irg/en/doc/) > > This way, we have no new string to translate. > > WDYT? It is indeed better to avoid new strings to be translated, and with your proposal, each list would still contain 4 items, which is better, too. However, I think the "Newcomers Howto" link would be nice to keep as it is. What about letting the "Documentation" link direct to the new https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation page Much of the documentation in the wiki was written by Documentation Team members, so my idea to have a separate link for "Official Documentation" was maybe wrong (Or "Official" could still be added to "User manuals in many languages:" in the wiki page instead).
I think we should clearly separate official documentation and wiki documentation (everybody can write in the wiki and everything isn't checked). We have currently three links to documentation, I suggest to have one to official documentation (where Mageia get involved), one to newcomers (they are our target) and one to the wiki documentation. That means, IMHO: Newcomers Howto: nothing changed (except, later on, a better dedicated page) Documentation: as said Marja call it "Official Documentation", I think it is important. Wiki: in the support column, change the link for https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation.
CC'ing i18n, because changing "Documentation" to "Official Documentation" would mean work for translators. I suppose there is enough time, because we'll have a 5beta3, correct?
CC: (none) => i18n-bugs
Source RPM: mageiawelcome-0.8.8-1.mga4.src.rpm => mageiawelcome-0.8.8-1.mga4, mageiawelcome-0.8.10-1.mga5Whiteboard: (none) => MGA4TOO
(In reply to André DESMOTTES from comment #4) > I think we should clearly separate official documentation and wiki > documentation (everybody can write in the wiki and everything isn't checked). > We have currently three links to documentation, I suggest to have one to > official documentation (where Mageia get involved), one to newcomers (they > are our target) and one to the wiki documentation. > That means, IMHO: > Newcomers Howto: nothing changed (except, later on, a better dedicated page)m I agree. > Documentation: as said Marja call it "Official Documentation", I think it is > important. Is the term "Official" significant? It could be "Mageia's tools manuals"? But this could imply other changes. > Wiki: in the support column, change the link for > https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation. I think that this link can be labeled "Contributive documentation" (corrector said me this word is not recognized :/) Papoteur
CC: (none) => yves.brungard_mageia
Please, Daniel, do whatever you thing is the best, doing nothing being the worst.
Sorry for long delay. Documentation button is pointing now to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation as Marja suggested in comment 3. I committed to git and changed version to 0.8.11. Can someone with SVN access repack it and ask to push? I have no rights to do it.
(In reply to Daniel Napora from comment #8) > Sorry for long delay. > Documentation button is pointing now to > https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation as Marja suggested in comment 3. > I committed to git and changed version to 0.8.11. > Can someone with SVN access repack it and ask to push? > I have no rights to do it. Just committed the new package to SVN, I suppose it is one of those packages that can be pushed by any packager during freeze. @ Rémi Could you please try whether you can push new MageiaWelcome?
CC: (none) => remi
Btw, rpmlint complained that the "GPL+" license is invalid, does it exist?.
Rémi just pushed version 0.8.12, with Daniels fix for the Documentation button and with a License file (GPLv3) I suggest we wait for comments before pushing the same changes to Mageia 4 updates_testing
Summary: MageiaWelcome needs to be updated => MageiaWelcome needs to be updated (new links)
Hi, may a different link be managed depending on the locale/language as for the text itself? If so, the following links would be used for French: Page 1 / Documentation: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_5_:_Notes_de_version-fr https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_5_Errata-fr https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Guide_du_d%C3%A9butant-fr https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation-fr Page1 / Support / Wiki: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Accueil-fr Page4 / RPMDrake: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Gestion_des_logiciels-fr#Installer_et_supprimer_des_logiciels Page4 / URPMI: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/URPMI-fr Thank you,
CC: (none) => mageia
(In reply to Stéphane Couturier from comment #12) > Hi, may a different link be managed depending on the locale/language as for > the text itself? > > If so, the following links would be used for French: > > Page 1 / Documentation: > https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_5_:_Notes_de_version-fr > https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_5_Errata-fr > https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Guide_du_d%C3%A9butant-fr > https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation-fr > > Page1 / Support / Wiki: > https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Accueil-fr > > Page4 / RPMDrake: > https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Gestion_des_logiciels- > fr#Installer_et_supprimer_des_logiciels > > Page4 / URPMI: > https://wiki.mageia.org/en/URPMI-fr > > Thank you, Good idea. It is too late for MGA5, but I will do that for MGA6.
Is it wanted that all these french pages are in the english wiki (en/)?
Whiteboard: MGA4TOO => MGA4TOO MGA5TOO
(In reply to Samuel VERSCHELDE from comment #14) > Is it wanted that all these french pages are in the english wiki (en/)? There is only one wiki, the English one, as long as the multilingual module is not working.
> > Good idea. It is too late for MGA5, but I will do that for MGA6. Hi, Couldn't the package be updated even after MGA5 release? Users running an update during the install would then get the correct language. Also any user updating an existing installation could benefit from this update. Thanks,
(In reply to Stéphane Couturier from comment #16) > Couldn't the package be updated even after MGA5 release? Indeed, it could and it should. That's what MGA5TOO in the whiteboard means, actually :)
About updating... the information need to be updated at https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:MageiaWelcome https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Suggestions_for_MageiaWelcome Especially version and current status
CC: (none) => fri
The translation of links for specific languages is done yet in 1.3 version, already in cauldron. Should be pushed now to mga5.
Hi, Asking again while preparing Mageia 6 release this time: The following links currently point to English pages while the French translation do exist. Could you please update these? Page 1 / Documentation / Release Notes: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_6_Notes_de_version-fr Page 1 / Documentation / Errata: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_6_Errata-fr Page1 / Support / Wiki: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Accueil-fr Page4 / RPMDrake: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Gestion_des_logiciels-fr#Installer_et_supprimer_des_logiciels Page4 / URPMI: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/URPMI-fr The other links already refer to the French version of the pages. Thank you!
Source RPM: mageiawelcome-0.8.8-1.mga4, mageiawelcome-0.8.10-1.mga5 => mageiawelcome-0.8.10-1.mga5Whiteboard: MGA4TOO MGA5TOO => MGA5TOO
Some of those links can already be translated, see the French translation for mageiawelcome on Transifex. I believe the last 3 links can't be translated yet though.
All links I have checked are translatable. Thus I close this report. Thanks all.
Status: NEW => RESOLVEDResolution: (none) => FIXED