Bug 12216 - New Mageia Theme 4 is ugly
Summary: New Mageia Theme 4 is ugly
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Mageia
Classification: Unclassified
Component: RPM Packages (show other bugs)
Version: Cauldron
Hardware: All Linux
Priority: Normal critical
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Anne Nicolas
QA Contact:
URL: http://www.mageialinux-online.org/for...
Whiteboard:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2014-01-06 02:19 CET by Arnaud Vacquier
Modified: 2015-01-30 03:38 CET (History)
9 users (show)

See Also:
Source RPM: mageia-theme
CVE:
Status comment:


Attachments
RC installer look (84.69 KB, image/png)
2014-01-06 10:21 CET, Ojangu
Details
Pop-up window in installer without frame (29.87 KB, image/png)
2014-01-06 10:44 CET, Ojangu
Details

Description Arnaud Vacquier 2014-01-06 02:19:16 CET
Hi,

the new theme with flower is very ugly.
I use computer for Lan-Party with gamers, i can't show mageia with this very ugly theme.

Thank youy for nexw theme or come back Mageia 3 theme.

Aranud.



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Comment 1 Arnaud Vacquier 2014-01-06 02:22:32 CET
open english topic :
https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6657
Comment 2 Nicolas Lécureuil 2014-01-06 02:23:27 CET
sorry but this is not what can be called a "useful bugreport".

An useful one would give some more infos on what you don't like, giving some advices.

CC: (none) => mageia

Thierry Vignaud 2014-01-06 05:38:21 CET

Component: Installer => RPM Packages
Assignee: bugsquad => ennael1
Source RPM: (none) => mageia-theme

Adrien D 2014-01-06 06:45:21 CET

CC: (none) => aaaaadrien

Georges Eckenschwiller 2014-01-06 08:33:59 CET

CC: (none) => paiiou

Comment 3 Ojangu 2014-01-06 10:21:04 CET
In RC installer new theme is very badly exposed. In MCC is more better. Is it possible to do same look for installer?

CC: (none) => jaanus.ojangu

Comment 4 Ojangu 2014-01-06 10:21:52 CET
Created attachment 4724 [details]
RC installer look
Manuel Hiebel 2014-01-06 10:28:40 CET

CC: (none) => atelier-bugs

Comment 5 Anne Nicolas 2014-01-06 10:34:21 CET
Indeed. I saw it after commiting yesterday. I will redo it today
Comment 6 Ojangu 2014-01-06 10:44:20 CET
Created attachment 4725 [details]
Pop-up window in installer without frame

Pop-up window in installer without frame is badly view.
Comment 7 Manuel Hiebel 2014-01-06 10:46:35 CET
(In reply to Jaanus Ojangu from comment #6)
> Created attachment 4725 [details]
> Pop-up window in installer without frame
> 
> Pop-up window in installer without frame is badly view.

This is not a theme bug but a gtk regression with the switch to gtk3, please open a separate one.
Comment 8 Anne Nicolas 2014-01-06 11:08:22 CET
indeed still theme has to be a bit more centered on left-background for the installer.
Comment 9 magnux77 2014-01-06 15:21:44 CET
Doctor5000 said : "specific advice what exactly you don't like"

This theme is not ugly. It could be a quality to be ugly cause it is very distinctive. Like the Mageia1 theme (I liked it). 
No, this theme is just very sad, it is just dark blue ink poured on a kitchen wallpaper from last 70's. It is just poor designed by an unprofessionnal who just doesn't know the state of the art and has never seen a PC running Trisquel or whatever distro or Windows. Or in the past, Mandriva. I am not at all a designer but i can see there is no effects. No light, no shadow, no depth, no 3D, no gradiant colours, no colours. 
The problem is that the powerfull CCM will have the look of a poor tool and Mageia the look of an old fashioned distro. Like Arnaud Vacquier, i should feel ashamed to launch CCM before someone else. 
I can not believe it's serious, no one can select such a theme, it's a joke.

CC: (none) => magnux77

Comment 10 Donald 2014-01-07 09:34:19 CET
As far as I am concerned, this is a no fix bug and I am closing it as such.
The artwork process went through the same procedure as normal, and no suitable background was given, so alternative measures were taken as per MGA3 and we were given this one which is suitable, unless you can provide a new image that meets the requirements by today then there wont be any change as we don't have time.

PS: you may say that it is something out of the 70's, I say that it is a neo modern interpretation of Japenese pictographs.

Status: NEW => RESOLVED
CC: (none) => watersnowrock
Resolution: (none) => WONTFIX

Comment 11 Arnaud Vacquier 2014-01-07 20:17:16 CET
Mageia = Cauldron = Magic

Flowers not !
So why you wait last time for update this theme ?

Please come back Mageia 3 theme.

----

all distributions are recognizable by their wallpaper.

Ubuntu, Mint, Debian....

Why not for Mageia ? why change every new release ?
Comment 12 Manuel Hiebel 2014-01-07 23:13:13 CET
(In reply to Arnaud Vacquier from comment #11)
> Mageia = Cauldron = Magic
> 
> Flowers not !
> So why you wait last time for update this theme ?
> 
> Please come back Mageia 3 theme.
> 
> ----
> 
> all distributions are recognizable by their wallpaper.
> 
> Ubuntu, Mint, Debian....
> 
> Why not for Mageia ? why change every new release ?

or not: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Wallpapers
Comment 13 Donald 2014-01-08 08:48:58 CET
You may have noticed that none yes NONE of our previous wallpapers had anything to do with a Cauldron, so I have to assume that you have something against flowers, and hence your somewhat irrational responses to this.

If this really was such a big issue for you then no doubt you would have been taking part in the choosing of the artwork, or, just changing the defaults, it takes less than 3 minutes to do it, even reverting to the mga3 theme would take that long. I'll even provide the necessary files for you!!!

As an aside, the particular "magic" associated with a Cauldron for me tends to involve a close connection with nature, so by that logic flowers are probably the most Cauldron like theme we have had so far.
Comment 14 a t 2014-01-15 22:19:52 CET
I would not call the new theme "ugly" but I much prefer the previous theme. It had more finesse. It did not need to be changed.

I would not class this bug as "critical" providing the functionality is not affected. I think that "enhancement" would be a better classification.

Mostly this bug relates to folk prefering one thing over another. We all have different opinions, so the bug cannot be fixed for all people. However, this is the first time that we have seen the new theme. The theme may be non-functional but it gives people a lasting first impression. It deserves some time and discussion, so the bug should not be prematurely closed. 

If the theme cannot easily be changed by a user, it would be better to keep the theme very bland.

In MCC, the navigation panel has dark blue with white writing on it. It would be easier to read the text if the writing was not directly over the flowers. From this point of view, the Installer is better. The flowers are nicely out of the way in that.

I suggest that the logo be changed. Either put the cauldron over the word "mageia" or remove the cauldron, and use a capital 'm', i.e. "Mageia". The current theme logo looks like "Omageia".

CC: (none) => ajtrim

Comment 15 Donald 2014-01-15 22:36:15 CET
(In reply to a t from comment #14)

> I suggest that the logo be changed. Either put the cauldron over the word
> "mageia" or remove the cauldron, and use a capital 'm', i.e. "Mageia". The
> current theme logo looks like "Omageia".

As the logo used is a updated version of the original logo, I don't see it being changed anytime soon, certainly not for MGA4, but you can submit your ideas, as any thoughts on things to improve are always welcome.
Comment 16 mj marches 2015-01-30 03:38:41 CET
The Mageia 4 theme is great!

It could be suggested, perhaps, that one could consider the privileged position of flowers in our cultures... including flowers for Mageia (magic)- for those that care to bring magic and cauldons into the discussion.

Addtionally, I never saw the "O" thing.

CC: (none) => mj.marches


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