Bug 9418

Summary:	plop boot manager instead of syslinux (feature request)
Product:	Mageia	Reporter:	ra oeai <oeai>
Component:	Installer	Assignee:	ISO building group <isobuild>
Status:	RESOLVED WONTFIX	QA Contact:
Severity:	enhancement
Priority:	Normal	CC:	marja11, ngompa13, thierry.vignaud
Version:	Cauldron	Keywords:	NEEDINFO
Target Milestone:	---
Hardware:	All
OS:	Linux
URL:	http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html
Whiteboard:
Source RPM:		CVE:
Status comment:

Description ra oeai 2013-03-16 01:52:06 CET

we were discussing it a little on irc channel
so i decided to make it a feature request

advantages? - plop boot can recognize usb devices, boot cdrom or boot other partition, so if user by mistake will leave cd\usb media he will be able to continue booting without need of change it for reboot.
also as it is more flexible this can provide more ways of using such disk.
so the proper setup can lead to better work with mageia.
and maybe some kind of usb stick installer (with using just few scripts) can be made

Reproducible: 

Steps to Reproduce:

ra oeai 2013-03-16 01:53:08 CET

URL: (none) => http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html

Comment 1 Thierry Vignaud 2015-05-11 10:55:15 CEST

Can you document:
- how to set up it
- its config file
- how to read back its config file

Keywords: (none) => NEEDINFO
CC: (none) => thierry.vignaud

Comment 2 Marja Van Waes 2015-09-22 20:51:36 CEST

(In reply to Thierry Vignaud from comment #1)
> Can you document:
> - how to set up it
> - its config file
> - how to read back its config file

@ ra oeai

Can you please reply?

CC: (none) => marja11

Comment 3 ra oeai 2015-09-22 22:06:25 CEST

maybe grub2 or lilo already can do same things especially with more included modules.
there's a full description of how to include it for lilo and grub, it uses 
plpcfgbt tool for default configuration and i'm not sure where permanent changes stored.
everything described on the site and the best way to integrate (i thought) - is in asking main developer


Features

    USB boot without BIOS support (UHCI, OHCI and EHCI)
    CD/DVD boot without BIOS support (IDE)
    PCMCIA CardBus support to enable boot from USB PC-Cards
    Floppy boot
    Different profiles for operating systems
    Define up to 16 partitions
    No extra partition for the boot manager
    Hidden boot, maybe you have a rescue system installed and the user should not see that there is another system installed
    Boot countdown
    Hide partitions
    Password protection for the computer and the boot manager setup
    Backup of partition table data
    Text mode user interface 80x50
    Graphical user interface 640x480, 800x600, 1024x786, 1280x1024
    MBR partition table edit
    Start of the boot manager from hard disk, floppy, USB, CD, DVD
    Starting from Windows boot menu
    Starting from LILO, GRUB, Syslinux, Isolinux, Pxelinux (network)
    It can be used as PCI option ROM in your BIOS
    Access the whole USB hard disk (up to 2TB) even when the bios has a 128 GiB limit
    You can run the boot manager over the network
    Start the network card bootrom from the boot manager to boot from the network

Comment 4 Marja Van Waes 2015-09-24 20:21:56 CEST

Thx for replying :-)

However, I have the feeling that tv's question was for more ready-to-use information: even if he is more than smart enough to figure everything out, he lacks time.

Leaving it to Thierry to remove the NEEDINFO keyword (or not).

Comment 5 Samuel Verschelde 2016-10-15 22:10:37 CEST

Assigning to ISO builders group for decision.

Assignee: bugsquad => isobuild

Comment 6 Neal Gompa 2016-10-15 22:40:10 CEST

PLoP is a proprietary boot manager. I do not think it'd be a good idea to make our boot process for ISOs dependent on it. It also cannot boot Linux natively (must chainload GRUB2 for it).

If we really need a flexible boot manager, GRUB 2 is certainly an option that we have the tooling in place to use already.

CC: (none) => ngompa13

Comment 7 Rémi Verschelde 2016-10-15 22:43:35 CEST

Indeed, no point spending time on a proprietary boot manager.

https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/licence.html

Status: NEW => RESOLVED
Resolution: (none) => WONTFIX