Bug 3742

Summary: Please consider to disallow installing networkmanager when wifi is detected
Product: Mageia Reporter: Dick Gevers <dvgevers>
Component: InstallerAssignee: Mageia Bug Squad <bugsquad>
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX QA Contact:
Severity: normal    
Priority: Normal CC: ftg, mageia, marja11, olav, shlomif
Version: Cauldron   
Target Milestone: ---   
Hardware: All   
OS: Linux   
Whiteboard:
Source RPM: networkmanager-0.9.2.0-1.mga2 CVE:
Status comment:

Description Dick Gevers 2011-12-14 12:20:25 CET 
Description of problem:

As publicised on Mga ML's, networkmanager is causing problems with wifi cards (dongles) which work better without networkmanager, provided drakxtools, drakx-net. mandi, avahi-daemon are set up okay (usually are).

Networkmanager might be good for GNOME in general (dunno), but under above said circumstances we are better off without.

So I'd like to be considered that networkmanager is put in /etc/urpmi/skip.list for now during installation from DVD's, live mode of LiveCDs and installing from LiveCDs.

(One may want to compare http://bn.parinux.org/mageia2alpha2, but there's not much new there that wasn't known).
Comment 1 Frank Griffin 2011-12-14 12:40:06 CET 
Unfortunately, it is required by GNOME 3, so it can't be removed via urpme or ignored by urpmi.  The only way to get rid of it is rpm -e --nodeps after GNOME is in.

CC: (none) => ftg

Comment 2 Dick Gevers 2011-12-14 12:57:56 CET 
@Frank: This bug is for installer when detecting wifi, not post-install fixing. So in my mind the install process could override the GNOME requirement. But this is for the devs' consideration. BFN
Comment 3 Manuel Hiebel 2011-12-14 20:15:37 CET 
better to fix the bugs no ? :D

CC: (none) => mageia

Comment 4 Olivier Blin 2011-12-14 22:31:14 CET 
Related to https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3344#c13 ?
Comment 5 Dick Gevers 2011-12-14 23:34:58 CET 
@blino: well yes, it's related to all the wifi bugs I read in this Bugzilla and other remarks on the Mga ML's all evidencing that we should remove Networkmanager. Indeed I can't work with NM in Cauldron and get wlan0 working okay. So testing the alpha2 isos and seeing NM is installed for GNOME3 always, it occurred to me Mga would be better off without Networkmanager.

It's simple: drakxnet, drakroam, mandi and avahi-daemon get it done, but only if NM isn't around.

Thanks.
Comment 6 Marja Van Waes 2012-01-30 21:18:09 CET 
(In reply to comment #5)
> @blino: well yes, it's related to all the wifi bugs I read in this Bugzilla and
> other remarks on the Mga ML's all evidencing that we should remove
> Networkmanager. Indeed I can't work with NM in Cauldron and get wlan0 working
> okay. So testing the alpha2 isos and seeing NM is installed for GNOME3 always,
> it occurred to me Mga would be better off without Networkmanager.
> 
> It's simple: drakxnet, drakroam, mandi and avahi-daemon get it done, but only
> if NM isn't around.



cc'ing Gnome maintainer

@ Olav

What are your ideas about this issue?

CC: (none) => marja11, olav

Comment 7 Shlomi Fish 2012-02-27 10:54:47 CET 
(In reply to comment #5)
> @blino: well yes, it's related to all the wifi bugs I read in this Bugzilla and
> other remarks on the Mga ML's all evidencing that we should remove
> Networkmanager. Indeed I can't work with NM in Cauldron and get wlan0 working
> okay. 

I have the same problem now on Cauldron. With networkmanager running, the wlan0 refuses to load, while after stopping it, I am able to connect to the wifi.

Regards,

-- Shlomi Fish

CC: (none) => shlomif

Comment 8 Olav Vitters 2012-02-27 11:53:20 CET 
If there are bugs with NetworkManager, then file bugs so these bugs can be fixed.

For me, NetworkManager works perfectly fine with wifi.
Comment 10 Manuel Hiebel 2012-04-07 23:01:44 CEST 
I guess you are now agree to close this one as wontfix ? (since there was some improvement)

Status: NEW => RESOLVED
Resolution: (none) => WONTFIX

Comment 11 Dick Gevers 2012-04-07 23:06:16 CEST 
Not a problem for me (I don't have it on my laptop).