Bug 28243

Summary:	Please change tvtime rpmsrate from 5 to 3 so it does not automatically get included in liveiso/ default install
Product:	Mageia	Reporter:	Manuel Hiebel <manuel.mageia>
Component:	RPM Packages	Assignee:	All Packagers <pkg-bugs>
Status:	RESOLVED FIXED	QA Contact:
Severity:	normal
Priority:	Normal	CC:	andrewsfarm, joselp, mageia, ouaurelien, shybluenight
Version:	Cauldron	Keywords:	8rc1
Target Milestone:	Mageia 8
Hardware:	All
OS:	Linux
Whiteboard:
Source RPM:	meta-task, tvtime-1.0.11-3.mga8.src.rpm	CVE:
Status comment:

Description Manuel Hiebel 2021-01-28 19:58:27 CET

Description of problem:
tvtime is on all live iso

It's looks really old and I don't see the need to add it.
Maybe for webcam ?

http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/meta-task/current/SOURCES/rpmsrate-raw?view=markup#l137

Manuel Hiebel 2021-01-28 19:59:41 CET

CC: (none) => mageia

Comment 1 Aurelien Oudelet 2021-01-28 20:49:36 CET

Thanks reporting this.
Adding a tag.

CC: (none) => ouaurelien
Keywords: (none) => 8rc1
Target Milestone: --- => Mageia 8

Comment 2 Martin Whitaker 2021-01-28 21:08:45 CET

tvtime is included because it is a priority 5 package in rpmsrate.
I don't know who is responsible for rpmsrate (or indeed, if anyone is).

Comment 3 Manuel Hiebel 2021-01-28 21:19:24 CET

Yes I know, I suggest to change it to 3
the famous nobody is the maintainer

Comment 4 Lewis Smith 2021-02-01 10:24:26 CET

"Tvtime is a high quality television application for use with video capture cards ... ideal for videophiles"
certainly makes it rather specialised, and the sort of thing one would expect to install manually.
The previous two comments imply that reducing its rating would drop it from the Live ISOs, which looks sensible.

Assigning globally in the absence of a particular maintainer.

Source RPM: meta-task => meta-task, tvtime-1.0.11-3.mga8.src.rpm
Summary: remove tvtime from liveiso/ default install => Please change tvtime rpmsrate from 5 to 3 so it does not automatically get included in liveiso/ default install
Assignee: bugsquad => pkg-bugs

Comment 5 Jose Manuel López 2021-02-02 09:46:12 CET

I think it's right, I don't think it's an application that should be installed by default. 

For me it would be on the same level as Darktable for example, which is especially for photo editing.

CC: (none) => joselp

Comment 6 Chris B 2021-02-02 10:14:38 CET

Tvtime shouldn't be included in the live isos.
A webcam can be tested in a browser, online.

CC: (none) => shybluenight

Comment 7 David Walser 2021-02-02 11:49:04 CET

Tvtime is for TV cards, not webcams.  Most TV content isn't accessible to TV cards digitally because of content protection, and I haven't been able to find an analog PCI Express card that works in Linux.  Furthermore, tvtime only runs if your video card supports YUV2.  I would actually lower it to 2.  It's practically useless these days.

Comment 8 Thomas Andrews 2021-02-02 14:43:48 CET

Seems to me like I tried it several years ago, (10?) when the US moved from analog to digital broadcasts, but I'm not sure now. That probably means it didn't work at all with my Air2PC ATSC card, but then nothing really did work well with it back then. 

If it doesn't work with digital TV cards, because most of the world has moved on to digital broadcasts I don't see any reason not to lower its priority.

CC: (none) => andrewsfarm

Comment 9 Martin Whitaker 2021-02-03 22:56:17 CET

No dissenters, so done.

Status: NEW => RESOLVED
Resolution: (none) => FIXED