Bug 25437

Peter

Your directory/file listing above is to be expected. I think all software uses English names for real; but may translate some of them in user interfaces. What matters is whether you see any French names for 'standard' directories like you cite in the folder pane. A screenshot would clarify that.
And we need to know whether one can expect them to be translated (to ask later, perhaps).

Also, can you say whether Thunderbird showed French standard folder names in the past, e.g. Mageia 6 - but not any more? i.e. is this a new problem?
And do you see French anywhere, e.g. in its icons, menus and other program text?

This is really a forum type question *unless*
- you know Thunderbird should show certain folder names translated; or
- you know that there has been a reversion from when it used to;
in which case it would be a bug.

CC: (none) => lewyssmith

(In reply to Lewis Smith from comment #1)
> Peter
> 
> Your directory/file listing above is to be expected. I think all software
> uses English names for real; but may translate some of them in user
> interfaces. What matters is whether you see any French names for 'standard'
> directories like you cite in the folder pane. A screenshot would clarify
> that.
> And we need to know whether one can expect them to be translated (to ask
> later, perhaps).
> 
> Also, can you say whether Thunderbird showed French standard folder names in
> the past, e.g. Mageia 6 - but not any more? i.e. is this a new problem?
> And do you see French anywhere, e.g. in its icons, menus and other program
> text?
> 
> This is really a forum type question *unless*
> - you know Thunderbird should show certain folder names translated; or
> - you know that there has been a reversion from when it used to;
> in which case it would be a bug.

here attached 2 screenshots of thunderbird users interfaces, the first one with
thunderbird-68.0-1.1.mga7 and the 2nd one with thunderbird-68.0-1.3.mga7; see by yourself the difference

Created attachment 11276 [details]
screenshot of thunderbird users interface of thunderbird-68.0-1.1.mga7

Created attachment 11277 [details]
screenshot of thunderbird-68.0-1.3.mga7 users interface

even worse: here attached the screenshot of the window which opens when leftclicking (on thunderbird users interface) on the option: "empty the trash"
the tex of this window is in french but the options are in english (yes, no)
I dream of a distrib which respects the languages, which is not the case of mageia (see bug 23039 for example)

Created attachment 11279 [details]
leftclicking on the option "empty the trash now"

Thank you for the screenshots, they explain everything: a reversion from 68.0-1.1 to 68.0-1.3. Was this the result of a routine system update?
It would have helped to present the bug in this way initially. Never mind, it is on its way.

(In reply to peter lawford from comment #5)
> I dream of a distrib which respects the languages, which is not the case of
> mageia
Translations (if any) normally come with applications. For Mageia itself, you might consider joining the translation team:
 https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Internationalisation_Team_(i18n)

Assigning to doctor5000 for 'thunderbird'.

Assignee: bugsquad => doktor5000
Source RPM: (none) => thunderbird-68.0-1.3.mga7.src.rpm
Summary: although thunderbird-fr-68.0-1.mga7 was downloaded, evrything in thunderbird is written in english and not in french => thunderbird 68.0-1.3 does not translate standard folder names into French, which 68.0-1.1 did
CC: lewyssmith => (none)

Hi,

I also have that bug but, in my case, version 68.0-1 and 68.0-1.1 also cause that issue.  The problem is not solved with version 68.1 from bug 25435 but, for the moment I cannot find how to correct that bug.

Best regards,

Nico.

CC: (none) => nicolas.salguero

I finally found information about that problem.  It is an upstream issue, according to:
https://forums.mozfr.org/viewtopic.php?t=142296&p=891391
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1149126
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1579747
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1575512

For me, stopping thunderbird and renaming the file permissions.sqlite that is in my profile folder solved the issue when I started again thunderbird.

(In reply to Nicolas Salguero from comment #9)
> I finally found information about that problem.  It is an upstream issue,
> according to:
> https://forums.mozfr.org/viewtopic.php?t=142296&p=891391
> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1149126
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1579747
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1575512
> 
> For me, stopping thunderbird and renaming the file permissions.sqlite that
> is in my profile folder solved the issue when I started again thunderbird.

but you don't indicate the new name you give to the file permissions.sqlite

You can choose the name you want (I used permissions.sqlite.save) because the goal is to force thunderbird to create a new one when it does not find permissions.sqlite when starting.

(In reply to Nicolas Salguero from comment #11)
> You can choose the name you want (I used permissions.sqlite.save) because
> the goal is to force thunderbird to create a new one when it does not find
> permissions.sqlite when starting.

that seems to work for the moment, but how long it will stay? only God knows

sorry, but the modif didn't stay, I just opened thunderbird and it turned back into english

To make it persistent, I had to also change the pref "intl.multilingual.enabled" from "false" to "true".

thunderbird-68.1.0-1.1.mga7 will include that pref directly.

Depends on: (none) => 25435

(In reply to Nicolas Salguero from comment #14)
> To make it persistent, I had to also change the pref
> "intl.multilingual.enabled" from "false" to "true".
sorry, I don't find the file in which this modif has to be made 
> thunderbird-68.1.0-1.1.mga7 will include that pref directly.

I have checked every files of thunderbird-68.0-1.3.mga7 (Icould list them with rpm -ql thunderbird-68.0-1.3.mga7), included the files in ~/.thunderbird, and none contains a line beginning by intl.multilingual.enabled

You can change that setting within thunderbird's UI. 
Preferences - Advanced - General - Config Editor

CC: (none) => jim

(In reply to James Kerr from comment #17)
> You can change that setting within thunderbird's UI. 
> Preferences - Advanced - General - Config Editor

definitely doesn't work! as you told me I have switched intl.multilingual.enabled from false to true in Preferences - Advanced - General - Config Editor, have renamed permissions.sqlite, and just after whene opening thunderbird, everything was written in french; but this change is not persistent; when reopening thunderbird, it's in english, although intl.multilingual.enabled be set on true.
but perhaps the change remains persistent after rebooting, I'll check

it's definitely a bug! I have rebooted, rename permissions.sqlite, checked that 
intl.multilingual.enabled was set on true, the 2 first times I've opened thunderb.. evrything were in french, but at the 3rd time, weren't

According to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1579747#c32:
"""
It seems that giving read-only permissions to permissions.sqlite is a temporary workaround solution:
chmod -w permissions.sqlite
"""

(In reply to Nicolas Salguero from comment #20)
> According to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1579747#c32:
> """
> It seems that giving read-only permissions to permissions.sqlite is a
> temporary workaround solution:
> chmod -w permissions.sqlite
> """

it seems well working, but is it persistent on a long time ?

(In reply to Nicolas Salguero from comment #20)
> According to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1579747#c32:
> """
> It seems that giving read-only permissions to permissions.sqlite is a
> temporary workaround solution:
> chmod -w permissions.sqlite
> """

your trick seems permanently working

Version 68.2.1 solves the issue.  The temporary workaround solution is no more needed.

Depends on: 25435 => 25597

Version 68.2.1 solves the issue.  See bug 25597.

Depends on: 25597 => (none)
Status: NEW => RESOLVED
Resolution: (none) => FIXED