Bug 23992

Summary:	Let MageiaWelcome inform users about https://advisories.mageia.org/ and let https://advisories.mageia.org/infos.html link to the updates-announce ml
Product:	Mageia	Reporter:	Kristoffer Grundström <lovaren>
Component:	RPM Packages	Assignee:	Mageia tools maintainers <mageiatools>
Status:	RESOLVED FIXED	QA Contact:
Severity:	normal
Priority:	Normal	CC:	atelier-bugs, lovaren, marja11, napcok, yvesbrungard
Version:	Cauldron
Target Milestone:	---
Hardware:	All
OS:	Linux
Whiteboard:
Source RPM:	mageiawelcome	CVE:
Status comment:

Description Kristoffer Grundström 2018-12-11 10:46:30 CET

Description of problem: I got an idea and I don't know if something like this already exists as I don't know exactly what keywords to use except applet and task bar packages when using a search engine like duckduckgo, but what if we could have some background app or use some sort of notification setting for the task bar that tells you for example "A new program has been imported" or "A new update for XXXXXX" is coming so please stay tuned" just to make people more aware of what programs Mageia already has and gets. Some people just use operating systems just to browse the we and that's fine by me, but maybe people could notice the things that make the distribution actually work which also makes the developers and the packagers feel appreciated.

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Login to any preferred desktop environment.
2. Do the usual stuff like you always do or just leave the computer logged in.
3. A ping sound or whatever is heard and up comes a little notification telling you whatever has happened the latest 24 hrs.

For instance "A translation for the app XXXX is being enrolled".

Kristoffer Grundström 2018-12-11 10:49:29 CET

CC: (none) => hamnisdude
Summary: An applet that keeps track of upcoming releases of new packages that's being built => An applet that keeps track of upcoming releases of new packages that's being built and released

Comment 1 Marja Van Waes 2018-12-11 20:28:30 CET

This application cannot be packaged before someone writes the tool.


Not too sure we should want this, though: users can already sign up for the updates-announce mailing list https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/updates-announce

Most likely, their mail client will give a pop-up when there are new messages.

CC: (none) => marja11

Comment 2 Kristoffer Grundström 2018-12-13 00:24:10 CET

(In reply to Marja Van Waes from comment #1)
> This application cannot be packaged before someone writes the tool.
> 
> 
> Not too sure we should want this, though: users can already sign up for the
> updates-announce mailing list https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/updates-announce
> 
> Most likely, their mail client will give a pop-up when there are new
> messages.

Not that I'm against it, but where would anyone see that mailing list and how would they know how to subscribe to it?

Could it be presented somehow in Mageia Welcome or in the installer somehow?

Just asking.

Comment 3 Marja Van Waes 2018-12-13 22:50:51 CET

(In reply to Kristoffer Grundström from comment #2)
> (In reply to Marja Van Waes from comment #1)
> > This application cannot be packaged before someone writes the tool.
> > 
> > 
> > Not too sure we should want this, though: users can already sign up for the
> > updates-announce mailing list https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/updates-announce
> > 
> > Most likely, their mail client will give a pop-up when there are new
> > messages.
> 
> Not that I'm against it, but where would anyone see that mailing list and
> how would they know how to subscribe to it?
> 
> Could it be presented somehow in Mageia Welcome or in the installer somehow?

Maybe in MageiaWelcome the "Configure media sources and update system" page could link to the updates-announce mailing list, while stating that it informs its members of new updates for stable Mageia releases.

Not sure the MageiaWelcome developers agree, though ;-)

Anyway, assigning.

> 
> Just asking.

CC: (none) => napcok, yves.brungard_mageia
Source RPM: (none) => mageiawelcome
Assignee: bugsquad => mageiatools
Component: New RPM package request => RPM Packages
Summary: An applet that keeps track of upcoming releases of new packages that's being built and released => Let MageiaWelcome inform users about the updates-announce ml. (Was: An applet that keeps track of upcoming releases of new packages that's being built and released)

Comment 4 papoteur 2018-12-14 12:01:39 CET

Hello,
As I'm rewriting MageiaWelcome, I can consider that.
However, I consider that users interested to have notifications by email about content updates are a minority.
I would instead consider a link to the website, if something is to do.
https://advisories.mageia.org/
This link is already reminded regularly on blog posts. Perhaps this page should inform about the possibility to receive announces through the ml?
I see Mageiawelcome as a guide about indispensable information. Here it doesn't seem to be the case.
Papoteur

Comment 5 Marja Van Waes 2018-12-16 16:20:19 CET

(In reply to papoteur from comment #4)
> Hello,
> As I'm rewriting MageiaWelcome, I can consider that.
> However, I consider that users interested to have notifications by email
> about content updates are a minority.
> I would instead consider a link to the website, if something is to do.
> https://advisories.mageia.org/
> This link is already reminded regularly on blog posts. Perhaps this page
> should inform about the possibility to receive announces through the ml?
> I see Mageiawelcome as a guide about indispensable information. Here it
> doesn't seem to be the case.
> Papoteur

You convinced me, Yves, adding a link in MageiaWelcome to https://advisories.mageia.org/ would be better.

Btw, I didn't know mga-advisories is useful for everyone, instead of only for those who upload advisories, nice to know :-)

The link to https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/updates-announce could be added to https://advisories.mageia.org/infos.html
CC'ing Atelier Team... or should that be Sysadmin Team, as the file that needs to be adjusted suggests, see http://gitweb.mageia.org/software/infrastructure/mgaadvisories/plain/tmpl/infos.html

Summary: Let MageiaWelcome inform users about the updates-announce ml. (Was: An applet that keeps track of upcoming releases of new packages that's being built and released) => Let MageiaWelcome inform users about https://advisories.mageia.org/ (Was: An applet that keeps track of upcoming releases of new packages that's being built and released)
CC: (none) => atelier-bugs

Marja Van Waes 2018-12-16 16:21:49 CET

Summary: Let MageiaWelcome inform users about https://advisories.mageia.org/ (Was: An applet that keeps track of upcoming releases of new packages that's being built and released) => Let MageiaWelcome inform users about https://advisories.mageia.org/ and let https://advisories.mageia.org/infos.html link to the updates-announce ml

Comment 6 papoteur 2018-12-28 20:49:05 CET

Added in 1.18 release of mageiawelcome

Resolution: (none) => FIXED
Status: NEW => RESOLVED