Bug 23812

Summary:	Please make it less easy to download a Classical Mga6 iso while thinking that it is 6.1
Product:	Websites	Reporter:	roger herz-fischler <en493>
Component:	www.mageia.org	Assignee:	Atelier Team <atelier-bugs>
Status:	RESOLVED OLD	QA Contact:
Severity:	major
Priority:	Normal	CC:	lewyssmith, marja11
Version:	trunk
Target Milestone:	---
Hardware:	x86_64
OS:	Linux
Whiteboard:
Source RPM:	6.1 of October 2018: mageia 6-x86-64.iso	CVE:
Status comment:
Attachments:	journal from /var/log/journal compresed as *.xz and /root/drakx/report.bug.xz journal from /var/log/journal journal from /var/log/journal /root/drakx/report.bug marja e-mail 6.1 download page no 1 6.1 download page no 2

Description roger herz-fischler 2018-11-06 22:57:07 CET

Description of problem:
On three occasions I have installed 6.1 on a brand new hard drive. As always installation works perfectly.

installation of software appears to go smoothly even for extremely large and complicated software such as texlive and octave. Everything works. For the last two installations. I would check logging out and/or rebooting after each software installation. Then konsole and/or other software would no longer work.
This was associated with my being unable to do a normal logut/shutdown (I did poweroff as root). When I rebooted I was only offered the icewm system

On the second installation the problem occurred after I installed Kate. Since Kate has a terminal component I thought that might be the problem and so on the third attempt I did not install kate, intending to use kwrite as a reasonable alternative.

On the third install the problem occurred after I removed kmail and kwallet as I do not use them and they keep popping up.

I restarted the system and logged in root. I then updated all the software that was listed in the update section. The message then said: "you should restart your computer for kerenel desktop 4.1478-1.mag6.sysemd.

I rebooted and when to software again and note that there was something called "plasmdesktop" which was not installed. Hoping that this would solve my problem I marked it for download and noted that it said "also need to install kwallet and other things". So maybe taking out kwallet created the problem.

Marja told me how to obtain two journal reports, which I obtained. I do not see where to upload them (Maybe when I click submit?)

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
6.1 of October 2018: mageia 6-x86-64.iso

How reproducible:

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install mageia 6.1
2. Install (and test repeatedly and logout between isntallations) texlive (complete), update firefox, install pdfshuffler,qpdfview, pinta, graphviz+doc.
3. take out kmail and kwallet or kate

Comment 1 roger herz-fischler 2018-11-06 23:00:56 CET

Created attachment 10452 [details]
journal from /var/log/journal compresed as *.xz and /root/drakx/report.bug.xz

Comment 2 roger herz-fischler 2018-11-06 23:02:52 CET

Created attachment 10453 [details]
journal from /var/log/journal

Comment 3 roger herz-fischler 2018-11-06 23:05:52 CET

Created attachment 10454 [details]
journal from /var/log/journal

Comment 4 roger herz-fischler 2018-11-06 23:07:51 CET

Created attachment 10455 [details]
/root/drakx/report.bug

Comment 5 roger herz-fischler 2018-11-06 23:08:48 CET

Sorry about the multiple attachments. I thought that I could designate both at once and then was not sure which I had uploaded

Comment 6 Marja Van Waes 2018-11-08 09:55:00 CET

(In reply to roger herz-fischler from comment #3)
> Created attachment 10454 [details]
> journal from /var/log/journal

[marja@localhost Downloads]$ xzcat 23812journal3.txt.xz | grep "Linux version"
Nov 06 06:06:29 localhost kernel: Linux version 4.9.35-desktop-1.mga6 (iurt@rabbit.mageia.org) (gcc version 5.4.0 (GCC) ) #1 SMP Thu Jun 29 19:27:27 UTC 2017

Sorry, this isn't a Mageia 6.1 install, this is a Mageia 6 install :-(

There has been a huge Plasma update for Mageia 6, see https://blog.mageia.org/en/2018/05/10/the-grand-update-brace-yourselves/
(and https://blog.mageia.org/en/2018/05/14/issues-with-the-grand-update/ might apply, too)
Updating a Mageia 6 Plasma5 install only works when following the advice from those blog posts.

The only way to do a traditional Mageia 6.1 install, is using a network iso, e.g. :
http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/get/?q=Mageia-6.1-netinstall-x86_64-CD.iso 
or
http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/get/?q=Mageia-6.1-netinstall-nonfree-x86_64-CD.iso

For instructions on how to use the network iso, see http://doc.mageia.org/netinstall/6/en/content/index.html
Note that it won't work with bluetooth or encrypted wifi.

Mageia 6.1 Live isos are available, including a Plasma5 Live iso.

Mageia 7 will have full classical isos again. 

I hope you'll manage to do a real 6.1 install using a netinstall iso or a Live iso. Please report back when you succeed (or not).

CC: (none) => marja11

Comment 7 roger herz-fischler 2018-11-08 16:02:18 CET

Created attachment 10462 [details]
marja e-mail

Attachment 10453 is obsolete: 0 => 1
Attachment 10455 is obsolete: 0 => 1
Attachment 10454 is obsolete: 0 => 1
Attachment 10452 is obsolete: 0 => 1

Comment 8 roger herz-fischler 2018-11-08 16:02:59 CET

Created attachment 10463 [details]
6.1 download page  no 1

Comment 9 roger herz-fischler 2018-11-08 16:05:06 CET

Created attachment 10464 [details]
6.1 download page no 2

I should have noticed that on the second page it only said 6 and not 6.1.

I will be more careful next time.

In any case I am very pleased with 6.0 plus updates

Comment 10 Marja Van Waes 2018-11-08 23:23:15 CET

(In reply to roger herz-fischler from comment #8)
> Created attachment 10463 [details]
> 6.1 download page  no 1

"Download Mageia 6.1" is misleading

(In reply to roger herz-fischler from comment #9)
> Created attachment 10464 [details]
> 6.1 download page no 2
> 
> I should have noticed that on the second page it only said 6 and not 6.1.
> 
> I will be more careful next time.

I'll assign this report to Atelier team, maybe they can give "initial" and "6" in "Classic installation (initial release 6)" a red color, or do something else to make more clear that "Download Mageia 6.1" doesn't apply to the Classical iso.
> 
> In any case I am very pleased with 6.0 plus updates

I'm glad that works :-)

Assignee: bugsquad => atelier-bugs
Version: 6 => trunk
Summary: certain software no longer functioning + logout impossible + after reboot only icewm availalbe => Please make it less easy to download a Classical Mga6 iso while thinking that it is 6.1
Component: Release (media or process) => www.mageia.org
CC: sysadmin-bugs => (none)
Product: Mageia => Websites

Comment 11 Lewis Smith 2020-02-03 11:35:54 CET

Reviewing this old bug, it transpires that Mageia 6.1 was *not* released as a Classic ISO, just the Lives. I find that...[deleted]
> Mageia 6.1 Live isos are available, including a Plasma5 Live iso
Marja's comment 6 explains it all: complicated!
Congratulate Roger on the beautifully annotated screenshots comments 8 & 9. A picture is worth 1000 words.

Roger's obvious starting point (after discovering the false trail) was to install the 6.1 Plasma Live, and add to that.
This is all water under the bridge. For reasons bugged elsewhere (which I cannot yet find), application constraints keep Roger on M6.1.

Since the subject of this bug is obsolete, closing it.

Status: NEW => RESOLVED
Resolution: (none) => OLD
CC: (none) => lewyssmith