Bug 206

can you provide screenshots ?

CC: (none) => dmorganec

It is normal as the new "grey" or "apple" icons represent the icons related to the system and not from normal applications (as vlc for example)
I read in some kde articles there is only changed the system tray icon (to distinct system applications from normal applications) and not theirs normal application icon. (klipper, kmix, knotify they have their original aplication icon too; the gray version is only for the system tray)
I will try to find more info if it is possible about this, to confirme it.

CC: (none) => dglent

AFAIK, this is an upstream decision, icons in the system tray should be monochrome (from their point of view); so they enforced their decision on the upstream icons, e.g. kmix, klipper. Obviously not all apps built for KDE follow this specification... yet...

(File a report upstream if you don't like that upstream decision).

Status: NEW => RESOLVED
Resolution: (none) => INVALID

FWIW https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243387

See Also: (none) => https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243387

Created attachment 50 [details]
sytray icon

this is what i mean, the systray icon is grey and the notification above of the same icon is a totally different icon.

afaik, we are not obligated to follow this upstream convention.

imho, it looks ugly.

better open a bugreport upstream please, we will not differ from upstream policy ( at least for now )

dmorgan: i disagree

ahmad sent the upstream "bug", it's not a bug, it's a feature, the systray icons can be themed afaik, except there is not much themes yet that use this, because the 4.6.0 is only recently released.

imo, BEFORE release we should have a theme that makes these icons consistent.

if in the future more themes actually use this, then it perhaps we can change the icons again to this theme.


so, in short, i would like a few icons added to our theme.

This change has been around since the first 4.6.0 beta IIRC, so it's been around for a long time.

I wouldn't change upstream defaults regarding this, every time we change a default we increase the maintenance burden in the distro; I don't think the current icons look bad at all.

So, sure, there could be alternative themes packages in the distro (if artwork team wants to create those SVG files), but I wouldn't enable them by default.

(A simply search of iaora-kde bugs in mdv bugzilla will reveal how much work the MDV KDE team had to do to keep up with upstream oxygen style changes; KDE team is Mageia, with all due respect, is even smaller and not all of us are as experienced as helio, boiko, neoclust or rodrigo).

Last thing, I have to say I like the way GNOME is packaged in mdv/mga, very minimal changes/deviations from upstream -> much easier maintenance, just my 0.02⬠worth.

from Aaron Seigo:

« * the monochrome icons are function-topically _part of the plasma workspace_, which is why they are rendered in a way that blends with the rest of the Plasma shell. why? they represent system and hardware services.

* application icons remain themed by the icon theme, and colourful, as a means to differentiate them from "stuff about my computer and what it is doing"

* the application and the monochrome icons are kept separated within the tray; you can have separate tray widgets for app status (colorful) and other icons, even.

* we plan to integrate the colorful app icons with other widgets (e.g. the tasks widget) ».

http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=90106#p169686


For me (just my personal point of view), i prefere the monochrome icons (in this case of apps, and only in system tray), it gives me a high class feeling.

@Dimitrios, thanks for the link.