Bug 14406

Summary: Thunderbird has bing as default search engine
Product: Mageia Reporter: Thomas Backlund <tmb>
Component: RPM PackagesAssignee: Florian Hubold <doktor5000>
Status: RESOLVED INVALID QA Contact:
Severity: normal    
Priority: Normal CC: doktor5000
Version: Cauldron   
Target Milestone: ---   
Hardware: All   
OS: Linux   
Whiteboard: MGA4TOO, MGA3TOO
Source RPM: thunderbird CVE:
Status comment:

Description Thomas Backlund 2014-10-28 22:51:09 CET
This is tested on thunderbird 31.2 on Mga4, so I assume mga3 and cauldron is affected too...


seems thinderbird has bing as default search engine, I think it should use google or duckduckgo instead.

To check:

select/highlight some text in a mail, rightclick on it and in the menu you will see "search with bing for..."



Reproducible: 

Steps to Reproduce:
Comment 1 Florian Hubold 2014-10-28 22:52:43 CET
Thanks for noticing, will have a look.

Status: NEW => ASSIGNED
CC: (none) => doktor5000
Version: 4 => Cauldron
Whiteboard: (none) => MGA4TOO, MGA3TOO

Comment 2 James Kerr 2014-10-29 00:36:29 CET
On my system, about:config shows as Default:
browser.search.order1  Google
browser.search.order2  Yahoo
browser.search.order3  Bing

However, right-clicking on  a link offers to search using Yahoo

I never normally use the search option in Thunderbird and so I can't be certain that it always selects Yahoo. 

My Thunderbird profile has been through many systems over the years and so I've no idea when or how these were added.
Comment 3 James Kerr 2014-10-29 00:47:50 CET
Just to add to my confusion 
browser.search.defaultenginename is set to Google
Comment 4 Thomas Backlund 2014-10-29 07:50:19 CET
My setup is a clean mga4.1 install with all updates, no idea if bing was default on the clean install, I only noticed it when I had updated all packages and started using thundebird more...
Comment 5 Florian Hubold 2014-10-29 21:57:54 CET
Well, my thunderbird profile goes back to version 2.something (at least from what I remember vaguely) and I wasn't even aware that it offers a search engine. But also here, when selecting some text in a mail, on rightclick it offers 

Bing search for "foobar" ...

With a quick glance over the results from googling "thunderbird bing search engine" this issue seems to go back to at least 2012 to TB 11.0 : http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2445257 and https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.thunderbird/3OcVBeZdxao

As I'll need to edit userChrome.css for the new "grey in grey" design in compose window, will probably also edit the defaults for global search and the searchplugin for the right-click context menu, as described e.g. here:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/173822/how-to-make-thunderbird-not-use-bing-as-search-engine or here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-search-engine-open-search

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What order do we prefer?
DuckDuckGo
Google
[...]
?

We should probably also revise Firefox, as Bing has a higher priority there over Duckduckgo - I thought Duckduckgo should be the default, no?
Comment 6 David Walser 2014-10-29 22:03:27 CET
IIRC we hadn't ever forced DDG to be the default (that should be Google), but we had just added it as an option.  I wouldn't be opposed to changing it to the default, but that should probably go through the council.  Certainly, Bing should absolutely not be a default or priority over anything, that's obvious :o)
Comment 7 Florian Hubold 2014-10-29 22:34:14 CET
Well, I thought so too - but that's intentional from Mozilla, check:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731590#c12
That came from Roland Tanglao (Thunderbird Technical Support Lead) quoted in the now non-existent thunderbird getsatisfaction page. See http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=11842541

OTOH, they also default to Google on Firefox Oo

@David: If I forget, could you bring up this topic with search engine default/ordering regarding DDG on next council meeting?
Comment 8 Samuel Verschelde 2015-05-19 23:53:23 CEST
If it's upstream default, then closing this bug report as INVALID. I'm not sure we can change the default and keep the "thunderbird" name, to be checked.

Status: ASSIGNED => RESOLVED
Resolution: (none) => INVALID