Bug 13903

Summary:	To configure wireless regulatory domain under 'advanced settings' is contra-intuitive
Product:	Mageia	Reporter:	Dick Gevers <dvgevers>
Component:	RPM Packages	Assignee:	Mageia tools maintainers <mageiatools>
Status:	NEW ---	QA Contact:
Severity:	enhancement
Priority:	High	CC:	fri, marja11, smiling.diego, yvesbrungard
Version:	Cauldron	Keywords:	7beta3, FOR_ERRATA7, USABILITY
Target Milestone:	Mageia 7
Hardware:	All
OS:	Linux
Whiteboard:	MGA5TOO, MGA6TOO
Source RPM:	drakx-net-2.35-1.mga6	CVE:
Status comment:

Description Dick Gevers 2014-08-12 22:50:12 CEST

Description of problem:

* drakconnect and/or drakroam

When setting up a wireless connection (wifi) the wireless regulatory domain (WLD) must be set correctly, else it will not work.

To assume that the iso country code is equal to one of the other locale settings is making an often wrong presumption.

My location is NL, my preferred language is en_GB and whenever I set up a wireless connection, the default setting for WLD is GB.

It needs to be (for me) NL and I need to see that I have to "fix" this by hand. If I assume that 'advance settings' are for more experienced users and skip it, wifi will never work. So WLD should be brought out in the open such that anyone configuring wifi will see how it is set, so (s)he can change it.

This is a request for an enhancement, but IMHO a needed one. The more so since installer does not show help screens for networking details.

Reproducible: 

Steps to Reproduce:

Dick Gevers 2014-08-12 22:57:35 CEST

Whiteboard: (none) => 5alpha2

Comment 1 Manuel Hiebel 2014-08-19 22:56:45 CEST

isn't it bug 1015 ? speaking about CRDA witch is set wrong for some countries

Comment 2 Dick Gevers 2014-08-19 23:23:44 CEST

No, I am not just complaining about a wrong setting or a wrong default.

What I am saying is that it is wrong to assume that any previous choice of locale would be a good choice for Wireless Regulatory Domain, and therefore the choice should not be hidden behind the 'advanced settings' button, but rather the user should always be asked to input or confirm the country code.

Comment 3 Manuel Hiebel 2014-08-19 23:30:09 CEST

Oh ok sorry

>but rather the user should always be asked to input or confirm the country code.

I disagree, almost everyone don't know this is, so showing them is not better

Source RPM: drakxnet(-text)-2.12-2.mga5 => drakx-net-2.12-2.mga5
Severity: normal => enhancement

Comment 4 Dick Gevers 2014-08-20 00:40:05 CEST

>I disagree, almost everyone don't know this is, so showing them is not better

Yes, that would be ideal, if the country were always set right automatically. But it simply is not, because locales are often different from expected, so the user is needed. And the user knows best which country (s)he is in.

Besides with a laptop the country can change anytime, so it has be possible to easily adjust it: I need my laptop to work also when I go abroad.

Samuel Verschelde 2015-05-16 18:42:29 CEST

Whiteboard: 5alpha2 => (none)

Samuel Verschelde 2015-05-16 18:42:42 CEST

Keywords: (none) => Triaged

Comment 5 Dick Gevers 2016-03-13 19:55:44 CET

Valid for 6dev1 isos of 11/3/2016

Keywords: (none) => 6dev1

Comment 6 Dick Gevers 2016-05-22 17:45:45 CEST

Please reconsider this is judged an enhancement: it is bothersome for every user and should not be under "advanced" as every user can have the need to access it as pointed out above (sorry to disagree with previous triage).

Valid for 6sta1.

Keywords: 6dev1, Triaged => 6sta1

Samuel Verschelde 2016-10-15 23:45:25 CEST

Assignee: bugsquad => mageiatools

Comment 7 Dick Gevers 2016-11-07 20:35:55 CET

I beg to still disagree this ought to be an enhancement, so thanks in advance to reconsieer the severity.

It never works out of the box as this choice is hidden and default setting always wrong (here).

Summary: To configure wireless regulatory domain under 'advanced settings' is peculiar => [5.1] To configure wireless regulatory domain under 'advanced settings' is contra-intuitive

Marja Van Waes 2016-11-08 10:53:20 CET

CC: (none) => marja11
Summary: [5.1] To configure wireless regulatory domain under 'advanced settings' is contra-intuitive => To configure wireless regulatory domain under 'advanced settings' is contra-intuitive
Whiteboard: (none) => MGA5TOO

Marja Van Waes 2016-11-08 10:54:36 CET

Keywords: (none) => USABILITY

Comment 8 Samuel Verschelde 2016-11-08 10:58:12 CET

(In reply to Dick Gevers from comment #7)
> I beg to still disagree this ought to be an enhancement, so thanks in
> advance to reconsieer the severity.
> 
> It never works out of the box as this choice is hidden and default setting
> always wrong (here).

Keeping it as enhancement request but raising priority.

Priority: Normal => High

Comment 9 Dick Gevers 2016-12-13 06:53:21 CET

Valid for M6sta2 (viewing installed from Live isos dated 10 DEC 2016)

Keywords: 6sta1 => 6sta2
Source RPM: drakx-net-2.12-2.mga5 => drakx-net-2.27-1.mga6

Comment 10 Dick Gevers 2017-03-26 12:51:04 CEST

Valid for 6RC

Keywords: 6sta2 => 6RC

Comment 11 Dick Gevers 2018-08-11 11:43:28 CEST

Valid for 6.1 rc, although setting is currently that the country "AE" is chosen by default - from the top of the alphabet, but as wrong as previously reported...

Keywords: 6RC => 6.1

Comment 12 Dick Gevers 2018-08-16 12:45:05 CEST

Valid for 6.1

Dick Gevers 2018-08-16 12:50:38 CEST

Target Milestone: --- => Mageia 7

Dick Gevers 2018-08-16 12:51:12 CEST

Keywords: (none) => FOR_ERRATA6

Comment 13 diego w 2018-12-31 18:05:47 CET

I also got struck by this just now under 6 w/ latest updates

how to reproduce: Install Mageia and don`t take care about your keyboard settings and country --> channel 13 is unavailable

actually I came across this bug entry, as I was desperately looking for a way to set the reg domain, its really badly squirreled away. I wouldnt mind it being somewhere in the advanced stuff, but I would have expected it more like in the WLAN specific part, than just in the general lower end of the window, which I never ever used so far.

I suggest leaving this setting where it is but also adding a per WLAN adapter or per connection option as well.
as I think the problem when travelling can prove annoying in some cases.

CC: (none) => smiling.diego

Dick Gevers 2019-02-25 17:56:49 CET

Whiteboard: MGA5TOO => MGA5TOO, MGA6TOO
Source RPM: drakx-net-2.27-1.mga6 => drakx-net-2.35-1.mga7
Keywords: 6.1, FOR_ERRATA6 => 7beta2, FOR_ERRATA7

Comment 14 Dick Gevers 2019-04-06 16:25:25 CEST

Unchanged

Source RPM: drakx-net-2.35-1.mga7 => drakx-net-2.35-1.mga6
Keywords: 7beta2 => 7beta3

Comment 15 papoteur 2019-06-29 10:55:26 CEST

Hello,
Trying to insert an entry in errata, I didn't find which parameter is to set to choice the WLD in drakroam.
Which one is it ?

CC: (none) => yves.brungard_mageia

Comment 16 Morgan Leijström 2019-06-30 01:29:20 CEST

This should be in the installer manual (too). Is it?

CC: (none) => fri

Comment 17 Aurelien Oudelet 2020-09-19 18:09:19 CEST

Hi,
This is High priority bug for a good reason.

Making Mageia even better than ever is best direction.
In order to do right thing, this bug should be examined and fixed as soon as possible.

Packagers, please make the status to Assigned when you are working on this.
Feel free to reassign the bug if bad-triaged. Also, if bug is old, please close it.

On October 1st 2020, we will drop priority to normal.